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I have been involved in Social Dynamics since Sept 14th 2009, I consider myself very experienced in this area of social interaction. Taking the course March 5th-7th 2010 has taken my abilities to the next level. Even at this point I learned new skills and fine tuned my abilities so that they are now refined with the help of this course. Whether you are new or experienced in Social Dynamics I STRONGLY SUGGEST that if you have not taken a course from Kingpin Social to partake! It is not just for those who are new but also experienced, everyone who participates 100% into the course will benefit!

I am in no way affiliated with Kingpin Social or benefit from posting this.

Jason1390]]>
I have been involved in Social Dynamics since Sept 14th 2009, I consider myself very experienced in this area of social interaction. Taking the course March 5th-7th 2010 has taken my abilities to the next level. Even at this point I learned new skills and fine tuned my abilities so that they are now refined with the help of this course. Whether you are new or experienced in Social Dynamics I STRONGLY SUGGEST that if you have not taken a course from Kingpin Social to partake! It is not just for those who are new but also experienced, everyone who participates 100% into the course will benefit!

I am in no way affiliated with Kingpin Social or benefit from posting this.

Jason1390]]> http://calgarysocial.net/forum/calgary-pua-thread-Day-Game-Downtown-Calgary-or-on-the-LRT Mon, 08 Mar 2010 19:48:56 -0600 http://calgarysocial.net/forum/calgary-pua-thread-Day-Game-Downtown-Calgary-or-on-the-LRT
The train is super quiet in the mornings and after work during rush hours cause every one seems really somber about going to or leaving work. It kinda makes me not want to interupt the silence...

Basically I know that I need to be more direct and don't need to have as high of energy but I am struggling to open any sets. I read Nicks detailed day game post and it was super helpful but I just kind of need a couple canned openers/transitions to get me started. I want to be able to get maybe 1-5 minute solid number closes and minimize flakiness. I don't know if daygame is the type of place where this can work or if i should be prepared to stay in set longer, but everyone seems to be on a tight schedule downtown so quick closing feels ike a necessity

Could anyone tell me a few direct or indirect day game openers and transitions into getting numbers that doesn't seem to contrived so I can start gaming some randoms downtown?? If posting in the lounge is preferable (any instructors) just let me know where you posted and I will find the reply. I would love to hear any instructors thoughts, specifically Nick if you have a few free moments, I know you have a lot of hours of day game under your belt. Thanks in advance all!!]]>
The train is super quiet in the mornings and after work during rush hours cause every one seems really somber about going to or leaving work. It kinda makes me not want to interupt the silence...

Basically I know that I need to be more direct and don't need to have as high of energy but I am struggling to open any sets. I read Nicks detailed day game post and it was super helpful but I just kind of need a couple canned openers/transitions to get me started. I want to be able to get maybe 1-5 minute solid number closes and minimize flakiness. I don't know if daygame is the type of place where this can work or if i should be prepared to stay in set longer, but everyone seems to be on a tight schedule downtown so quick closing feels ike a necessity

Could anyone tell me a few direct or indirect day game openers and transitions into getting numbers that doesn't seem to contrived so I can start gaming some randoms downtown?? If posting in the lounge is preferable (any instructors) just let me know where you posted and I will find the reply. I would love to hear any instructors thoughts, specifically Nick if you have a few free moments, I know you have a lot of hours of day game under your belt. Thanks in advance all!!]]> http://calgarysocial.net/forum/calgary-pua-thread-Outside-opinions-required Sun, 07 Mar 2010 13:38:11 -0600 http://calgarysocial.net/forum/calgary-pua-thread-Outside-opinions-required
I knew this girl back in grade 6 (the only reason i actually remembered her was because our birthdays were on the same day and i thought that was the coolest shit ever) and i just happened to come across her on facebook, she happened to be a friend of a friend. I looked at her and she was about an HB7 HB8. So i start chatting her up, reminise on Grade 6 memories (she remembered me too, nice!).

After we were chatting for about an hour on facebook i sent her this "Listen, I've gotta run. 403*******, if you don't text me in the next minute and 23 seconds our friendship is over forever" and then sign off. (Which, by the way, if you're a fan of Facebook closes, has worked every time as long I KNOW Ihave attraction built up with the girl).

We start texting back and forth and everything is great, im thinking another notch on my belt and shes thinking potential boyfriend. She had given me her adress through a text for something, so i called her up on Friday. "Hey, what's your favorite thing from Tim Hortons?" "Double Double, why?" "Sweet, I'll be over in 10 minutes" *Click*. I went to timmy's, grabbed the coffee and headed to the university campus... another long story... took me like half an hour to find her building. I call her and she says she's walking down the stairs to meet me.

HOLY SHIT. HB 7 or 8 went to HB10 in person. I seriously have never met a hotter girl in my life. I froze, went stupid, and lost all of my game. We held awesome conversation, she's a wicked girl, but HERE'S THE THING. I was so starstruck on how hot this girl was that I completely forgot everything I knew about kino and how important it was... the only time we touched was the hug we shared before I left. how ****ing gay!

You think that's bad, it gets worse.

10 minutes after I left, i sent her a text

"Seriously stealing you tomorrow night, pick you up at 8".

she replied "I might have to study tomorrow night, i don't know if that's a good night for me!"

"If we're gonna get married you're gonna have to meet my friends sooner or later."

"Haha, you're right I guess we'll have to work something out."

I didn't really send anything to her at all, then out of nowhere I was drunk and said this...

"your grass green eyes and your dark brown hair make for an innocent look yet you have such a fierce personality, it's sexy. if we don't go out soon im putting 'single' back up on facebook."

"grass green eyes? haha thats a nice comparison. thank u and i'm totally innocent!! you're not single?"

I didn't reply to her for a solid 7 or 8 hours, than said "hey sorry I've been driving all day. it's just a look, i would hope you have a sense of adventure. and just a joke, HB10"

she replied "i never got the rest of that text"

and i said "Than you'll never know! how was your day HB10"

WHERE DID I GO WRONG. She hasn't said anything back, and this girl is SERIOUSLY the hottest girl I've ever met. Helpful tips on how to turn this around would be FANTASTIC!

Cheers guys,

Gamble]]>
I knew this girl back in grade 6 (the only reason i actually remembered her was because our birthdays were on the same day and i thought that was the coolest shit ever) and i just happened to come across her on facebook, she happened to be a friend of a friend. I looked at her and she was about an HB7 HB8. So i start chatting her up, reminise on Grade 6 memories (she remembered me too, nice!).

After we were chatting for about an hour on facebook i sent her this "Listen, I've gotta run. 403*******, if you don't text me in the next minute and 23 seconds our friendship is over forever" and then sign off. (Which, by the way, if you're a fan of Facebook closes, has worked every time as long I KNOW Ihave attraction built up with the girl).

We start texting back and forth and everything is great, im thinking another notch on my belt and shes thinking potential boyfriend. She had given me her adress through a text for something, so i called her up on Friday. "Hey, what's your favorite thing from Tim Hortons?" "Double Double, why?" "Sweet, I'll be over in 10 minutes" *Click*. I went to timmy's, grabbed the coffee and headed to the university campus... another long story... took me like half an hour to find her building. I call her and she says she's walking down the stairs to meet me.

HOLY SHIT. HB 7 or 8 went to HB10 in person. I seriously have never met a hotter girl in my life. I froze, went stupid, and lost all of my game. We held awesome conversation, she's a wicked girl, but HERE'S THE THING. I was so starstruck on how hot this girl was that I completely forgot everything I knew about kino and how important it was... the only time we touched was the hug we shared before I left. how ****ing gay!

You think that's bad, it gets worse.

10 minutes after I left, i sent her a text

"Seriously stealing you tomorrow night, pick you up at 8".

she replied "I might have to study tomorrow night, i don't know if that's a good night for me!"

"If we're gonna get married you're gonna have to meet my friends sooner or later."

"Haha, you're right I guess we'll have to work something out."

I didn't really send anything to her at all, then out of nowhere I was drunk and said this...

"your grass green eyes and your dark brown hair make for an innocent look yet you have such a fierce personality, it's sexy. if we don't go out soon im putting 'single' back up on facebook."

"grass green eyes? haha thats a nice comparison. thank u and i'm totally innocent!! you're not single?"

I didn't reply to her for a solid 7 or 8 hours, than said "hey sorry I've been driving all day. it's just a look, i would hope you have a sense of adventure. and just a joke, HB10"

she replied "i never got the rest of that text"

and i said "Than you'll never know! how was your day HB10"

WHERE DID I GO WRONG. She hasn't said anything back, and this girl is SERIOUSLY the hottest girl I've ever met. Helpful tips on how to turn this around would be FANTASTIC!

Cheers guys,

Gamble]]> http://calgarysocial.net/forum/calgary-pua-thread-TIPTIP-READ-THIS-enable-Private-messages-in-your-account Sun, 07 Mar 2010 11:04:15 -0600 http://calgarysocial.net/forum/calgary-pua-thread-TIPTIP-READ-THIS-enable-Private-messages-in-your-account
I am super busy during the week but we might be able to arrange something. What are you doing today?? Perhaps we could meet and game for a bit at the mall. Honestly the best way to learn this stuff is to go to a bootcamp. If you are a beginner like me their is no substitute to just taking the bootcamp and the instructors can offer you the complete experience. anyways enable private messaging on your account I can give you my cell #. maybe we can meet somewhere in the city to do a couple cold approaches to give you a feel for it. keep me posted buddy.]]>
I am super busy during the week but we might be able to arrange something. What are you doing today?? Perhaps we could meet and game for a bit at the mall. Honestly the best way to learn this stuff is to go to a bootcamp. If you are a beginner like me their is no substitute to just taking the bootcamp and the instructors can offer you the complete experience. anyways enable private messaging on your account I can give you my cell #. maybe we can meet somewhere in the city to do a couple cold approaches to give you a feel for it. keep me posted buddy.]]> http://calgarysocial.net/forum/calgary-pua-thread-Need-Your-Feedback Fri, 05 Mar 2010 16:40:08 -0600 http://calgarysocial.net/forum/calgary-pua-thread-Need-Your-Feedback
I just posted a Poll in the events forum regarding what day & time you would prefer to meet once per month.

Please go here & vote!

Thanks!]]>
I just posted a Poll in the events forum regarding what day & time you would prefer to meet once per month.

Please go here & vote!

Thanks!]]> http://calgarysocial.net/forum/calgary-pua-thread-Day2-choices Fri, 05 Mar 2010 05:35:07 -0600 http://calgarysocial.net/forum/calgary-pua-thread-Day2-choices
I had met a girl a week ago while out at BOSS and the details of the encounter are here. The main thing out that effects the event tonight is the fact the girl and I, HBBlue, parted with a short kiss and a hug. That helped set the tone for the events tonight.

Following Nick's get-a-girl-to-a-day2-within-9-days-of-meeting-her rule I set up a day2 tonight over the phone. Before I had decided where to go, I had two options
1) Go to the Howard Johnson hotel for city salsa vibe regular event
2) Go for a salsa party in the Joseph Richards Boutique Night Club for the vancouver salsa festival.

I chose the first event for several reasons: First, the party at the nightclub would have a VERY high level of energy, lots of distractions, lots of people with probably no isolation spots and I'd be setting myself up for competition for the whole night. The Howard Johnson hotel on the other hand it a regular place for me so I know a few ppl there, I know the music is good and the crowd is pretty mellow, and it's possible to build comfort there through conversation and kino b/c the music isn't too loud. In essence I chose the scene where I'd have more control and possibility in.
I set up the date on Tuseday and she asks me over the phone: "So do you have an idea in mind what to do or...?"
Me: "Of course"
Her: "Oh really?"
I tell her about the plan
Her: "Yeah, usually when I go to a hangout like that the guys are like "oh I don't know, what do you wanna do?" so I was kinda surprised you have plans"
I didn't believe at first that with all the advice out there on NOT TO DO THAT some guys still do, and at a large enough number that she can generalize from that. Oh well, just makes me look MORE awesome.
I try to figure her logistics so we can meet somewhere on the way, but she lives in the opposite side from where I'm coming from so we just decide to meet at the venue.

She txts me today asking "Hey what time are you wanting to go at tonight?"
I reply "Does 10ish work?"

Turns out the text didn't go through since she calls me later that day to ask the same question
More luck than brains on my part (my phone shows that the text went through), but shows she is interested. I tell her we meet there at 10 b/c I'm not really in the mood to do the beginners' class (from experience that is the worst energy vampire in salsa, you can go there all hyped up and by the end you just want to do hara-kiri).

On the way I open a middle aged lady at the bus stop to warm up. We talk through most of her bus ride and part when she needs to get off. Once the bus drops me off I realize one of two things is likely to happen:
1) Either HBBlue is already there (I'm strategically 10-15 mins late) and is probably dancing with someone else
2) Either HBBlue isn't there
(secret option (3) She is there and not dancing, not very likely)
So I decide in either of the cases I can't afford to walk in there and wait for her, so as I walk in I ask the first woman I see to dance (some middle aged lady, what is up with that tonight?) and we dance, talk, laugh and I locate HBBlue in the dancing crowd, I can tell she saw me so all I have to do is keep talking and having fun and she will come when the time is right.
The dance is over and my plan is to break off, but the middle aged lady takes me for another dance, ok no big deal. However I spot HBBlue sitting out for half the song and I realize that if I don't come up after that song I may overgame and lose this situation.
The second song is over, I part with the middle aged lady and come up giving HBBlue a hug. I try and start with a kiss on the lips, but end up on the forehead, meh work it out later. We dance for some time, have fun, talk, laugh, after 2 or 3 songs as I bring her up from a dip I give her a kiss. This time her friends aren't around so it can be longer without evoking anyone's objection or raising any ASD.
A few songs later, I need a drink of water and probably so does she. I go to the bar, ask for water, remember they only sell bottled water there so I pay for one. Now I'm in an interesting dilemma, I can buy her a water, but I don't feel like paying and it may be too early to be that comfortable with buying her stuff. On the other hand if i just have water for myself, I look like a tightass. So I take my bottle, and offer her some first. My plan is we can share the bottle, and if it runs out, make her buy the next round. Fair for everyone.
Before sitting down to rest I go to the DJ booth to make a request for a song she told me she likes (Xtreme - Te Extrano). It's a good song, usually one of my requests too, and it's bachata which is always fun. We dance close, and I mean CLOSE, there are no issues so I figure the rest of the night is good on autopilot. All I need to do is just not screw it up and build some comfort and more sexual investment.
Most of the night goes without anything new, dancing, making out shortly once every few dances, sit down, talk, she asks me random questions about my life, I talk and reciprocate trying to figure her out. It's all still part of the game, but it's the part you've known how to do all along. Everything that is "game" based is critical to get past the initial BS, but once that is gone, you can talk like normal people again, it's really cool.
Around 12:20 we decide to head off, by that time we're one of 3 remaining couples. We leave the other two couples be and head off. I ask her what bus she needs to take, she tells me where her stop is, I tell her I'll walk her there to make sure she gets on ok. I've done that several times with another girl I'm seeing at the moment and they can appreciate it if they like you. They like knowing you care about them.
She also tells me not too many guys do that either, and for most "chivalry is dead". So sounds like I scored more points there, yay
At some point I'm leaning against the pole for the stop and she's fidgeting around. I tell her she probably has more energy to dance, she says she's actually just trying to stay awake. I grab her waist and pull her over to me, she comes closer and leans her head against me. We're just getting closer now, bonding on some level, but it's clear to both her and I we're bonding as a couple. As the bus pulls in she thanks me for waiting with her, a long kiss goodbye. I tell her next week she should come by to SFU so I can show her around, she replies with "maybe". Between her schedule and possibly more exams I'm not concerned with that "maybe", it's a genuine "If I can make the time I would love to".

So good night all in all. There might be things I'm missing or could have gone even more with, but I'm content.

As usual, feedback and comments are welcome (that's why I'm posting this)]]>
I had met a girl a week ago while out at BOSS and the details of the encounter are here. The main thing out that effects the event tonight is the fact the girl and I, HBBlue, parted with a short kiss and a hug. That helped set the tone for the events tonight.

Following Nick's get-a-girl-to-a-day2-within-9-days-of-meeting-her rule I set up a day2 tonight over the phone. Before I had decided where to go, I had two options
1) Go to the Howard Johnson hotel for city salsa vibe regular event
2) Go for a salsa party in the Joseph Richards Boutique Night Club for the vancouver salsa festival.

I chose the first event for several reasons: First, the party at the nightclub would have a VERY high level of energy, lots of distractions, lots of people with probably no isolation spots and I'd be setting myself up for competition for the whole night. The Howard Johnson hotel on the other hand it a regular place for me so I know a few ppl there, I know the music is good and the crowd is pretty mellow, and it's possible to build comfort there through conversation and kino b/c the music isn't too loud. In essence I chose the scene where I'd have more control and possibility in.
I set up the date on Tuseday and she asks me over the phone: "So do you have an idea in mind what to do or...?"
Me: "Of course"
Her: "Oh really?"
I tell her about the plan
Her: "Yeah, usually when I go to a hangout like that the guys are like "oh I don't know, what do you wanna do?" so I was kinda surprised you have plans"
I didn't believe at first that with all the advice out there on NOT TO DO THAT some guys still do, and at a large enough number that she can generalize from that. Oh well, just makes me look MORE awesome.
I try to figure her logistics so we can meet somewhere on the way, but she lives in the opposite side from where I'm coming from so we just decide to meet at the venue.

She txts me today asking "Hey what time are you wanting to go at tonight?"
I reply "Does 10ish work?"

Turns out the text didn't go through since she calls me later that day to ask the same question
More luck than brains on my part (my phone shows that the text went through), but shows she is interested. I tell her we meet there at 10 b/c I'm not really in the mood to do the beginners' class (from experience that is the worst energy vampire in salsa, you can go there all hyped up and by the end you just want to do hara-kiri).

On the way I open a middle aged lady at the bus stop to warm up. We talk through most of her bus ride and part when she needs to get off. Once the bus drops me off I realize one of two things is likely to happen:
1) Either HBBlue is already there (I'm strategically 10-15 mins late) and is probably dancing with someone else
2) Either HBBlue isn't there
(secret option (3) She is there and not dancing, not very likely)
So I decide in either of the cases I can't afford to walk in there and wait for her, so as I walk in I ask the first woman I see to dance (some middle aged lady, what is up with that tonight?) and we dance, talk, laugh and I locate HBBlue in the dancing crowd, I can tell she saw me so all I have to do is keep talking and having fun and she will come when the time is right.
The dance is over and my plan is to break off, but the middle aged lady takes me for another dance, ok no big deal. However I spot HBBlue sitting out for half the song and I realize that if I don't come up after that song I may overgame and lose this situation.
The second song is over, I part with the middle aged lady and come up giving HBBlue a hug. I try and start with a kiss on the lips, but end up on the forehead, meh work it out later. We dance for some time, have fun, talk, laugh, after 2 or 3 songs as I bring her up from a dip I give her a kiss. This time her friends aren't around so it can be longer without evoking anyone's objection or raising any ASD.
A few songs later, I need a drink of water and probably so does she. I go to the bar, ask for water, remember they only sell bottled water there so I pay for one. Now I'm in an interesting dilemma, I can buy her a water, but I don't feel like paying and it may be too early to be that comfortable with buying her stuff. On the other hand if i just have water for myself, I look like a tightass. So I take my bottle, and offer her some first. My plan is we can share the bottle, and if it runs out, make her buy the next round. Fair for everyone.
Before sitting down to rest I go to the DJ booth to make a request for a song she told me she likes (Xtreme - Te Extrano). It's a good song, usually one of my requests too, and it's bachata which is always fun. We dance close, and I mean CLOSE, there are no issues so I figure the rest of the night is good on autopilot. All I need to do is just not screw it up and build some comfort and more sexual investment.
Most of the night goes without anything new, dancing, making out shortly once every few dances, sit down, talk, she asks me random questions about my life, I talk and reciprocate trying to figure her out. It's all still part of the game, but it's the part you've known how to do all along. Everything that is "game" based is critical to get past the initial BS, but once that is gone, you can talk like normal people again, it's really cool.
Around 12:20 we decide to head off, by that time we're one of 3 remaining couples. We leave the other two couples be and head off. I ask her what bus she needs to take, she tells me where her stop is, I tell her I'll walk her there to make sure she gets on ok. I've done that several times with another girl I'm seeing at the moment and they can appreciate it if they like you. They like knowing you care about them.
She also tells me not too many guys do that either, and for most "chivalry is dead". So sounds like I scored more points there, yay
At some point I'm leaning against the pole for the stop and she's fidgeting around. I tell her she probably has more energy to dance, she says she's actually just trying to stay awake. I grab her waist and pull her over to me, she comes closer and leans her head against me. We're just getting closer now, bonding on some level, but it's clear to both her and I we're bonding as a couple. As the bus pulls in she thanks me for waiting with her, a long kiss goodbye. I tell her next week she should come by to SFU so I can show her around, she replies with "maybe". Between her schedule and possibly more exams I'm not concerned with that "maybe", it's a genuine "If I can make the time I would love to".

So good night all in all. There might be things I'm missing or could have gone even more with, but I'm content.

As usual, feedback and comments are welcome (that's why I'm posting this)]]> http://calgarysocial.net/forum/calgary-pua-thread-Day-2-Downtown Thu, 04 Mar 2010 21:43:45 -0600 http://calgarysocial.net/forum/calgary-pua-thread-Day-2-Downtown
So I ended up meeting this girl downtown at a train station by where I work. This is handy since if she flakes I dont really give a shit, its like I took 15 mins out of my day and really isnt a big loss. We had texted a bit that day to confirm the time and place, as soon as I saw her I had a huge smile on my face and kind of held my arms out to the sides like "its me!!" haha, she was smiling and I gave her a big hug to set the fun playful tone for the rest of the time. At this point I also immediately realized that I wasn't really attracted to her but that was no reason to turn all lame and clam up so I decided to make the best of it and have fun with it for experience sake.

I kinda teased her a bit about how she was crazy for meeting some strange guy down town (smiling the whole time) and told her that we were going to grab some coffee close by. I made sure to be positive the entire time and lead the date where I wanted to go, I think this is the key to any successful interaction. I took her to a random coffee house, we ordered and sat down. I knew that coffee could potentially be a disaster day 2 since it is kind of "forced conversation" but I could tell that she was reasonably social and I made sure to keep my body language open and casual (I was leaning back in my chair the whole time) whereas she was leaning forward. We fluff talked for maybe 5-10 mins and I mentioned that we should go shopping (in the back of my mind I thought we might go bowling or something but I didnt really want to take the train to chinook or pay for bowling haha). We walked to TD square and I kino'd a bit whenever I felt like it and we just wandered around trying on clothes and bantering to the sales staff. It was not really awkward ever because I just didnt really care that much when silences happened. This is something worth trying to get used to. Awkward silences are a myth. If you decide not to feel uncomfortable you wont. we ended up wandering around the city for about an hour and 45 minutes and I didnt feel like hanging out anymore so I walked with her to my train station, she was goin the opposite direction so she had to continue on to the other platform. at my stop the train was pulling up so I just opened my arms and went for the hug and then gave her a little kiss. I told her to take it easy and that I would talk to her later. All in all it was a good experience since I know that I hopefully wont feel too uncomfortable next time (hopefully with a girl I am more interested in). All comments/questions are welcomed!]]>
So I ended up meeting this girl downtown at a train station by where I work. This is handy since if she flakes I dont really give a shit, its like I took 15 mins out of my day and really isnt a big loss. We had texted a bit that day to confirm the time and place, as soon as I saw her I had a huge smile on my face and kind of held my arms out to the sides like "its me!!" haha, she was smiling and I gave her a big hug to set the fun playful tone for the rest of the time. At this point I also immediately realized that I wasn't really attracted to her but that was no reason to turn all lame and clam up so I decided to make the best of it and have fun with it for experience sake.

I kinda teased her a bit about how she was crazy for meeting some strange guy down town (smiling the whole time) and told her that we were going to grab some coffee close by. I made sure to be positive the entire time and lead the date where I wanted to go, I think this is the key to any successful interaction. I took her to a random coffee house, we ordered and sat down. I knew that coffee could potentially be a disaster day 2 since it is kind of "forced conversation" but I could tell that she was reasonably social and I made sure to keep my body language open and casual (I was leaning back in my chair the whole time) whereas she was leaning forward. We fluff talked for maybe 5-10 mins and I mentioned that we should go shopping (in the back of my mind I thought we might go bowling or something but I didnt really want to take the train to chinook or pay for bowling haha). We walked to TD square and I kino'd a bit whenever I felt like it and we just wandered around trying on clothes and bantering to the sales staff. It was not really awkward ever because I just didnt really care that much when silences happened. This is something worth trying to get used to. Awkward silences are a myth. If you decide not to feel uncomfortable you wont. we ended up wandering around the city for about an hour and 45 minutes and I didnt feel like hanging out anymore so I walked with her to my train station, she was goin the opposite direction so she had to continue on to the other platform. at my stop the train was pulling up so I just opened my arms and went for the hug and then gave her a little kiss. I told her to take it easy and that I would talk to her later. All in all it was a good experience since I know that I hopefully wont feel too uncomfortable next time (hopefully with a girl I am more interested in). All comments/questions are welcomed!]]> http://calgarysocial.net/forum/calgary-pua-thread-Read-this-TIPTIP-You-have-PM-s-disabled-so-I-couldnt-respond Wed, 03 Mar 2010 21:18:42 -0600 http://calgarysocial.net/forum/calgary-pua-thread-Read-this-TIPTIP-You-have-PM-s-disabled-so-I-couldnt-respond
But I can tell you this, I thought the program was incredible and helped me get over my approach anxiety completely. I wasnt socially incompetent before I took the program, I had plenty of male friends and some female friends but I was the "guy friend" with them. I never went on dates with women or got numbers from girls before I took the bootcamp. Over the bootcamp weekend I got 19 phone numbers and two day 2's (dates). I would say that the program was exactly what I needed to get comfortable doing cold approaches (approaching girls you've never met, starting a conversation and getting solid numbers). Before I would simply see women I was attracted too but wouldnt have the balls to go talk to them. I should say that this program isnt going to get you the woman of your dreams right away. A big piece of all of this stuff is about making yourself into a more attractive guy. Dont mistake that for meaning you need to make yourself look better or anything. Its about building your self confidence and self esteem to the point where you dont really need women for validation... which in turn makes you much more attractive. If you are struggling in this area of your life at all I would wholeheartedly recommend taking the bootcamp. For me it has made a huuuuuge difference in my social life. With all that said if you dont take it seriously and force yourself into those situations where you are uncomfortable you wont get the experience you want. This takes a lot of work and you need to realize that getting rejected from lots of girls (i do mean looooots of girls) is part of the process and makes you stronger. Hope this helps and let me know what you decide, I would love to introduce you to Kevin or Cam, I stay in touch with both of them. I seriously am beyond happy i took the program and I fully believe it is worth the $1000. But it is hard work, finding attractive women to date is not easy but the program gives you the tools to get started.

Talk soon]]>
But I can tell you this, I thought the program was incredible and helped me get over my approach anxiety completely. I wasnt socially incompetent before I took the program, I had plenty of male friends and some female friends but I was the "guy friend" with them. I never went on dates with women or got numbers from girls before I took the bootcamp. Over the bootcamp weekend I got 19 phone numbers and two day 2's (dates). I would say that the program was exactly what I needed to get comfortable doing cold approaches (approaching girls you've never met, starting a conversation and getting solid numbers). Before I would simply see women I was attracted too but wouldnt have the balls to go talk to them. I should say that this program isnt going to get you the woman of your dreams right away. A big piece of all of this stuff is about making yourself into a more attractive guy. Dont mistake that for meaning you need to make yourself look better or anything. Its about building your self confidence and self esteem to the point where you dont really need women for validation... which in turn makes you much more attractive. If you are struggling in this area of your life at all I would wholeheartedly recommend taking the bootcamp. For me it has made a huuuuuge difference in my social life. With all that said if you dont take it seriously and force yourself into those situations where you are uncomfortable you wont get the experience you want. This takes a lot of work and you need to realize that getting rejected from lots of girls (i do mean looooots of girls) is part of the process and makes you stronger. Hope this helps and let me know what you decide, I would love to introduce you to Kevin or Cam, I stay in touch with both of them. I seriously am beyond happy i took the program and I fully believe it is worth the $1000. But it is hard work, finding attractive women to date is not easy but the program gives you the tools to get started.

Talk soon]]> http://calgarysocial.net/forum/calgary-pua-thread-FR-First-time-ever-and-Bootcamp Sun, 28 Feb 2010 21:31:51 -0600 http://calgarysocial.net/forum/calgary-pua-thread-FR-First-time-ever-and-Bootcamp
First day I started with “where is ....” and “what time is it”. After a few sets I added a “quick question” opener about music or gift ideas, which their responses varied from good and bad, until Kevin told me my posture was shit every time i would go into a set.

Most sets i can’t remember, what i do remember is that most sets lasted 5 minutes but i would go for the # and they said no. There were two memorable sets that i remember. One i got the number of one of the 2 chicks that i was talking to (one had their parent’s phone?) I used my routine of “where is ...” and then used both of my quick question openers and just went for the #. Thinking now I’m really surprised that it worked because now I can remember all these mistakes i made but whatever.

Other set was the last set of the day and I remember it because I pussied out of asking for the # (low energy set) and Kevin made me go back and ask for it again which was awesome... I didn’t get the # haha.
The next day I learned that I was consistent in that I could open and carry a 5 minute conversation but I didn’t really push myself that hard so i didn’t get any #’s. I figured out afterwards that when i went into a set my posture was shot, and that my energy was really low. As soon as I added more energy I got a 10ish min set with these two Australian college chicks and a good 3 set of college girls.

Today the mall was fucking dead, i had to circle Chinook at least 10 times before we left. But that just meant i had to make the most of my sets. The only set i can remember from today is my best set of the bootcamp. I open with “hey quick question, its my buddies b-day next week what should i get him....” transitioned to music for a bit, told a DHV story, made fun of one of them, and then closed with “well i gotta run but give me your # (as i was bringing out my phone) and maybe we’ll hang out sometime. I sent an instant text a couple hours after to one of them and im planning on calling her tomorrow. The other chick doesn’t have her phone so ill wait a couple days.

I opened i think 60 sets (20 a day) this weekend and my progress from friday to today is fucking huge. I went from huge approach anxiety to easily opening and getting some # closes. Im planning on sarging 2 days a week from now on to work on my game. This bootcamp was one of the most useful weekends of my life, and super tiring haha. Running game 3 days in a row is exhausting.]]>
First day I started with “where is ....” and “what time is it”. After a few sets I added a “quick question” opener about music or gift ideas, which their responses varied from good and bad, until Kevin told me my posture was shit every time i would go into a set.

Most sets i can’t remember, what i do remember is that most sets lasted 5 minutes but i would go for the # and they said no. There were two memorable sets that i remember. One i got the number of one of the 2 chicks that i was talking to (one had their parent’s phone?) I used my routine of “where is ...” and then used both of my quick question openers and just went for the #. Thinking now I’m really surprised that it worked because now I can remember all these mistakes i made but whatever.

Other set was the last set of the day and I remember it because I pussied out of asking for the # (low energy set) and Kevin made me go back and ask for it again which was awesome... I didn’t get the # haha.
The next day I learned that I was consistent in that I could open and carry a 5 minute conversation but I didn’t really push myself that hard so i didn’t get any #’s. I figured out afterwards that when i went into a set my posture was shot, and that my energy was really low. As soon as I added more energy I got a 10ish min set with these two Australian college chicks and a good 3 set of college girls.

Today the mall was fucking dead, i had to circle Chinook at least 10 times before we left. But that just meant i had to make the most of my sets. The only set i can remember from today is my best set of the bootcamp. I open with “hey quick question, its my buddies b-day next week what should i get him....” transitioned to music for a bit, told a DHV story, made fun of one of them, and then closed with “well i gotta run but give me your # (as i was bringing out my phone) and maybe we’ll hang out sometime. I sent an instant text a couple hours after to one of them and im planning on calling her tomorrow. The other chick doesn’t have her phone so ill wait a couple days.

I opened i think 60 sets (20 a day) this weekend and my progress from friday to today is fucking huge. I went from huge approach anxiety to easily opening and getting some # closes. Im planning on sarging 2 days a week from now on to work on my game. This bootcamp was one of the most useful weekends of my life, and super tiring haha. Running game 3 days in a row is exhausting.]]> http://calgarysocial.net/forum/calgary-pua-thread-Lethbridge-Saturday-night-tonight Sat, 27 Feb 2010 15:43:40 -0600 http://calgarysocial.net/forum/calgary-pua-thread-Lethbridge-Saturday-night-tonight
So let me know! hopefully we can meet up! (I'm 23 btw)]]>
So let me know! hopefully we can meet up! (I'm 23 btw)]]> http://calgarysocial.net/forum/calgary-pua-thread-Da-Beach Sat, 27 Feb 2010 15:23:33 -0600 http://calgarysocial.net/forum/calgary-pua-thread-Da-Beach
Following the talk we hit a hotel lounge to watch the game, were we grabbed some food and I had a fucking heart attack with about 6s left. But we got US again Sunday. WOOOOOOO!

On to the more relevant, we cruise over to Whyte and hit Lucky 13 around 10:30. On the way in, I cant remember how but we got to talking about the serene beaches of Edmonton and decided that was our new opener for the night. Wander in and chat with the beer tub girl right away – pushy saleswoman lol. After warming up with her I head for a lap and head straight for the first good looking girl I see –HBGreen. My opener for the night (beaches aside) is “I thought you were adorable and had to meet you”, the three set opens great but I stumble a little on the transition asking “how do you guys know each other” and such without creating any real conversation. Before it starts going downhill I grab some hands and lead them over to hybrid who chats with the other two while I vibe a bit with the target. Friends drag the target off to the dance floor before too long but by now I am feeling in state and know its going to be a fun night. WHY THE FUCK DO I NOT ALWAYS JUMP IN SET RIGHT AWAY? Choding around for the first 15 in the club always kills me, no more of that shit.

Next set. Same opener, 2 set opens well, Chuck Bass joins and takes the obstacle. My target is anxious to go dance so after a minute or two I show her the cyclone and push her off towards the dance floor. Nothing solid, but she was smiling and can always re-open.

Next set. See two girls walk in while I am chatting with Chuck. HBGuess is a solid 8 and I head straight for her. Direct open, not entirely smooth as she looked a little stunned so I chatted with her friend for a bit then with the target. Didn’t last too long, they wanted to find there friends. They wander off, I go back to chatting with Chuck and Elektro, and watch HBGuess run up to HBGreen on the dance floor and give her a big hug.

Next set. Seated three set, I open with “Hey guys, were are all the good beaches in Edmonton?” Chuck is there too and we have some fun with our inside joke. Immediately I pull out my other opener for the night with my target “But seriously, I thought you were adorable and had to come over here and meet you.” Move into some standard stuff, they met at church ha ha, Chuck asks about bars on Whyte and teases them for choosing what they described as a mediocre bar (for those of you hitting Edmonton, Luck 13 is a fantastic little club, this was my second time sarging there and both have been great nights). Chuck sits down and after a little bit I jump in the booth next to my target. Vibe well with her and the group, talking a lot about snowboarding and show some pics from the Alps. Some funny role playing about us opening our own orange grove and her being the new poster girl for Tropicana along with Chris Farley after bringing up the SNL skit were Chris Farley opens girls by asking them to peel his orange (another joke from the ride up, good times). A long set, probably half an hour – Bass bailed (the set was 2 6’s and a good 8 – the 8 was my target), so I number closed the group. Funny bit were the target was telling me she never gives her real number out and one of the friends was encouraging her too. Sweet.

Wow, this is report is getting long fast. Funny set were Chuck says go open this mixed 3 set and I head over. Terrible timing were there backs were slightly turned and when I went and tapped one girl, I saw she was zipping up the front of the other girls dress. Immediately they think I am a fucking creeper watching this and I make a quick exit.

Standing near the dance floor I notice HBGreen and HBGuess along with the other three still working it on the dance floor. Grab HBGreen’s hand and say “I choose you” *credit Elektro there. Grind a bit on the dance floor, pick her up and throw her around a bit because the dancing is pretty terrible. Good fun but I missed some great opportunities to ramp up the sexuality here, as I had the chance to start whispering some sexual comments in her ear but froze up and didn’t pull anything out. Our dancing continues to be shit (lots of grinding but we keep kind of tripping over each other), so I pull her back to the bar. Pull it back and go for some comfort, tease her about being a bikini wrestling champion, ramp up the sexuality again and go for the makeout. She pulls back so continue vibing. She invites me to Iron Horse as her friends tell her they are ready to go, I decline and grab the number and a kiss on the cheek.

We chill for awhile, watch hybrid open some good looking girls. For a guy who is convinced he is terrible and cant stay in a set past the opener he seems to get a lot of smiles and a couple 5 minute sets including one with HBGuess and her friend. Great stuff.

We hit the street for a couple sets. Open three more with beaches and just chill and chat the girls and Chuck while Elektro and hybrid go off on there own adventure. Decent low key sets, I am happy to let Chuck carry the conversations and he keeps things flowing with pictures of his freakishly large poodle ha ha.

At the end of the day I am happy, got in state quickly and kept it flowing all night. Kept things very direct and natural and just had some great conversations. For the future I want to continue like this, get in sets quickly, keep state, and be direct and natural. I also want to do more venues like Lucky, a little closer to a pub, but still a great looking and young crowd. I will try some Ship and Anchor, any other venue suggestions for Calgary? The main point I want to work on from this night is the sexual escalation, I held back with HBGreen.

That’s all for now, love to hear everyone’s thoughts and especially some perspectives from Elektro, Chuck Bass, and Hybrid.

Joe]]>
Following the talk we hit a hotel lounge to watch the game, were we grabbed some food and I had a fucking heart attack with about 6s left. But we got US again Sunday. WOOOOOOO!

On to the more relevant, we cruise over to Whyte and hit Lucky 13 around 10:30. On the way in, I cant remember how but we got to talking about the serene beaches of Edmonton and decided that was our new opener for the night. Wander in and chat with the beer tub girl right away – pushy saleswoman lol. After warming up with her I head for a lap and head straight for the first good looking girl I see –HBGreen. My opener for the night (beaches aside) is “I thought you were adorable and had to meet you”, the three set opens great but I stumble a little on the transition asking “how do you guys know each other” and such without creating any real conversation. Before it starts going downhill I grab some hands and lead them over to hybrid who chats with the other two while I vibe a bit with the target. Friends drag the target off to the dance floor before too long but by now I am feeling in state and know its going to be a fun night. WHY THE FUCK DO I NOT ALWAYS JUMP IN SET RIGHT AWAY? Choding around for the first 15 in the club always kills me, no more of that shit.

Next set. Same opener, 2 set opens well, Chuck Bass joins and takes the obstacle. My target is anxious to go dance so after a minute or two I show her the cyclone and push her off towards the dance floor. Nothing solid, but she was smiling and can always re-open.

Next set. See two girls walk in while I am chatting with Chuck. HBGuess is a solid 8 and I head straight for her. Direct open, not entirely smooth as she looked a little stunned so I chatted with her friend for a bit then with the target. Didn’t last too long, they wanted to find there friends. They wander off, I go back to chatting with Chuck and Elektro, and watch HBGuess run up to HBGreen on the dance floor and give her a big hug.

Next set. Seated three set, I open with “Hey guys, were are all the good beaches in Edmonton?” Chuck is there too and we have some fun with our inside joke. Immediately I pull out my other opener for the night with my target “But seriously, I thought you were adorable and had to come over here and meet you.” Move into some standard stuff, they met at church ha ha, Chuck asks about bars on Whyte and teases them for choosing what they described as a mediocre bar (for those of you hitting Edmonton, Luck 13 is a fantastic little club, this was my second time sarging there and both have been great nights). Chuck sits down and after a little bit I jump in the booth next to my target. Vibe well with her and the group, talking a lot about snowboarding and show some pics from the Alps. Some funny role playing about us opening our own orange grove and her being the new poster girl for Tropicana along with Chris Farley after bringing up the SNL skit were Chris Farley opens girls by asking them to peel his orange (another joke from the ride up, good times). A long set, probably half an hour – Bass bailed (the set was 2 6’s and a good 8 – the 8 was my target), so I number closed the group. Funny bit were the target was telling me she never gives her real number out and one of the friends was encouraging her too. Sweet.

Wow, this is report is getting long fast. Funny set were Chuck says go open this mixed 3 set and I head over. Terrible timing were there backs were slightly turned and when I went and tapped one girl, I saw she was zipping up the front of the other girls dress. Immediately they think I am a fucking creeper watching this and I make a quick exit.

Standing near the dance floor I notice HBGreen and HBGuess along with the other three still working it on the dance floor. Grab HBGreen’s hand and say “I choose you” *credit Elektro there. Grind a bit on the dance floor, pick her up and throw her around a bit because the dancing is pretty terrible. Good fun but I missed some great opportunities to ramp up the sexuality here, as I had the chance to start whispering some sexual comments in her ear but froze up and didn’t pull anything out. Our dancing continues to be shit (lots of grinding but we keep kind of tripping over each other), so I pull her back to the bar. Pull it back and go for some comfort, tease her about being a bikini wrestling champion, ramp up the sexuality again and go for the makeout. She pulls back so continue vibing. She invites me to Iron Horse as her friends tell her they are ready to go, I decline and grab the number and a kiss on the cheek.

We chill for awhile, watch hybrid open some good looking girls. For a guy who is convinced he is terrible and cant stay in a set past the opener he seems to get a lot of smiles and a couple 5 minute sets including one with HBGuess and her friend. Great stuff.

We hit the street for a couple sets. Open three more with beaches and just chill and chat the girls and Chuck while Elektro and hybrid go off on there own adventure. Decent low key sets, I am happy to let Chuck carry the conversations and he keeps things flowing with pictures of his freakishly large poodle ha ha.

At the end of the day I am happy, got in state quickly and kept it flowing all night. Kept things very direct and natural and just had some great conversations. For the future I want to continue like this, get in sets quickly, keep state, and be direct and natural. I also want to do more venues like Lucky, a little closer to a pub, but still a great looking and young crowd. I will try some Ship and Anchor, any other venue suggestions for Calgary? The main point I want to work on from this night is the sexual escalation, I held back with HBGreen.

That’s all for now, love to hear everyone’s thoughts and especially some perspectives from Elektro, Chuck Bass, and Hybrid.

Joe]]> http://calgarysocial.net/forum/calgary-pua-thread-Feb-25-Roadhouse--479 Fri, 26 Feb 2010 03:26:25 -0600 http://calgarysocial.net/forum/calgary-pua-thread-Feb-25-Roadhouse--479
I only opened 3 sets tonight, two were solid 15+ minute sets but I have stopped number closing all together. I am having a problem with my goals I think. I decided on the drive home to retype all the hand written notes and lecture material from my bootcamp to try to reframe and recapture some of that indestructibility i felt during and after my bootcamp and also to start giving day game a shot. Any words of advice for solid day game, I'm a fan of chapters/starbucks and market mall?...It worked during the bootcamp and I think it might be a better way for me to make solid lasting connections. I am also in need of some guidance on how long to stay in set... if interest starts to wane too much I feel like I should try for a quick number close or just eject. Also tonight at the club I realized that I am limited pretty massively by the fact that I dont really go dance at all and this seems to be a hotspot for some of the best women in the club. I just dont feel like I can build as good of rapport by grinding some randoms as for 5 minutes, I think looking at this now that its worth trying and getting blown out of some dancing sets. Any advice on dance game or how to isolate off the dance floor since I have this notion that I need to have fun conversations with women to build attraction?

I also still have this issue of almost subconsicously screening women based on "would I want to date this women longer term" So if a girl smokes or isnt doing anything meaningful with her life I kind of subconsciously dismiss her as a candidate, if that makes any sense. This is a big part of the reason I only number closed one set in the past 3 nights. I am feeling pretty deflated and almost borderline depressed ruminating about my last 3 outings. I decided that I am gonna go out again Friday for sure and then I might try day game sat/sun at the mall. Since I have this pesky cold from clubbin too hard hahah! Any one interested in joining fri/sat/sin for some good times?? PM Me I promise I'm more posotive in person, this is just some cathartic venting, and trying to get over my sticking points. Considering I was Captain Chode for the first 24 years of my life this is still massive progress. I go out solo without any hesitation which is an empowering feeling and number closed around 30 women over the past few weeks.

I am also getting a small case of oneitis, or in my case twoitis. Basically there were two girls I met which had wicked positive energy and exceeded my standards in the looks department. The problem is these numbers are getting staler by the day. One is for sure a lost cause (maybe try again in 6 mos. haha) but the other I have been texting on and off but it is now almost 2 weeks old. Cam had advised me that 9 days is the threshold for a bricked number. This girl responds to all my texts (she added me on her blackberry messanger without me requesting it and she pretty much never responds without smiley emoticons or LOL's) I'm through guessing wether all that shit is IOI's though cause frankly some chicks over use the fuck out of those things.

I want to post the interaction from start to finish to try to get some really solid advice on ways to rekindle this since I thought it was gonna be a money number when I got it. So here we go:

I saw this girl call her HBVolleyball as I was walking by the d-floor at the roadhouse on feb 13 ( i checked my phone, dont think I'm that obsessed that would be creepy haha she looked fairly stoic so I smiled and said " you look so sad tonight, did someone steal your puppy today?!" she laughed and was like "awww nooooo I wish I had a puppy!" Her friend smiled at me when she saw me talking to her and I said "do you mind if I borrow your friend for a minute?" she gave me permission and actually seemed kind of impressed that I asked. I took HBvolley's hand and led her over to the tables by the bar. I pulled out her chair for her and sat her down. I grabbed a chair for myslef and I sat down but it was too loud to talk from opposite sides of the table ( was kind of like a mini afc dinner date setup haha). I stacked a couple fashion and travel related opens she mentioned that she didt really travel but wanted to really badly etc blah blah we talked about all sorts of crap for probs about 15 mins including where she was from and her passions and sports she played etc. I made sure to kino her often and at one point her chair got stolen while she was half standing over it so I said "brutal, we'll both stand then" I thought this was a pretty saavy little manouvre haha. I used it as an excuse to go stand right next to her so we didnt have to yell so loud and enabled me to kino more readily as well. I kept open "alpha" body language throughout most of the interaction. She asked questions about what I did with my time school/work type shit and I teased a bit but for the most part I kind of qualified myself in this set. I told her about how I just graduated and started work soon. I stayed posotive in the whole set and number closed at the end making sure to instant text and put my number in her phone. I finished the interaction with a handshake then hug which has become my standard departure move. She seemed to be really receptive through the whole interaction, my only concern is that I kind of supplicated by telling her I am a finance grad who starts work at a big oil and gas company soon. In retrospect this may have been a bit "look at me I'm a big deal" kind of approval seeking but frankly I'm fuckin stoked about it and thats the kind of stuff I talk to my real friends about so I just winged it. Jobs are scarce in finance right now so I'm feeling pretty ballin about it.

That night I got a little overzealous and sent her a text after the bar saying "it was nice meeting you farmgirl, talk to you later" (she lived on a farm and I teazed her about this at the club) to which I received dead air........ I though this might have been too chodish again but I read that nick starts texting same night if he really thinks its on. I guess now I know that I'm not Nick hahaaha!

So next day (sunday) I called and got VM and left "Hey farmgirl, its John, the craaaaaaziest thing happened to me last night!!" this was true, some guy ran over top of my car with his shoes and dented it, he paid for it so its all good.... and she never called back...

Fast forward to tuesday I decided to text to hopefully seed a conversation some how... i sent this
"Alright, its over. you blew it. I'm moving out. Wtf do we do about the cats?! Fluffy's mine."

She responds with "LMAO thats fine I suppose, who is this?"

me: " its prince charming, is this the volleyball player or the farm girl?"
her:"lmfao is this cole? this could be a bit of both I guess lol"
her: " or is this "tall hot John" lol?" (thanks to nick for this, hope you dont mind, i actually use tall cute john since i think its more accurate haha)
Me: I think you have a confession to make...
Her:lol i think all i have to confess is that i'm conpletely confused
me: my numbers in your phone, your a terrible liar, what sort of trouble are you causing tonight?
her: yeah but you never even put in in? lol having dinner with my grandma, you?
me: you need to get a new blackberry, damn flip phones. I'm going out with some friends!
her: haha I know!! Nice where at?
me:why? so you can stalk me?! some friends are in town from other schools and I dont start work for weeks so we're gonna live it up! dinner with granny, thats cute.
her: haha no just making convo, that will be sweet though!!
me: program my number in your phone goof, we'll talk later!

I dont think i need to outline the logic behind each text but it was a combination of all being truthful, trying to subtly dhv and build commonality. any comments are welcomed.

Oh fuck now I realize my mistake, I didnt contact her for a week cause i went out so much that week that I was too busy to even think about her.


So i tried to call that week later to which she texts

Monday

hey who is this?
I called again right away which I now realize may have been chodelike...
i txt: its prince charming, i see your not very good at following instructions...
her: lol oh hey John, sorry I got a new phone whats up?( and she send her BB pin for me to add her as a contact)
me: no worries, add me on bbmm i have some funny storues to tell you! you say lol a lot
her: lets hear the stories!!
me:"damnit (her last name)! i didnt want you to know my last name" (cause she now sees it in BB messenger)
"I dont usually give it out to strangers"
her: haha well i knew it wasnt john tall hot
her:well you know mine! and we're not strangers! lol
me do you tell people that that photo is of you? (her profile photo is of some supermodel looking chick)
her: lmao no! and they are all my friends so they know its not me. whats your story?
me: stories get butchered over bbm, whens a good time to call?
her: well im in calc till 730. whats it about?
me:calculus? ugh. you should be doing derivatives right now! msg me when your not busy...
her: sounds good
......
......
.....

TUEsday

her: Hey whats your story??
me: I'll give you a shout, do you have 5 mins?
her: no I'm in class lol ill call you later
..... No phone call

Wednesday

me: what kind of phone did you get?
her:curve
me:boo! bold all the way.
her: haha well its my friends old one so i got it for free
....
me: my puppy needs a bath
me:she smells funny
her:lmfao aww!! what kind?
me: labradoodle, she's tha bomb, I'll send a pic...
-send pic-
her:omg I love labradoodles!!! lol she's so cute!
me: she is the main character in one of my funny stories
her: aww!!
me: I'm in the middle of a workout! I'm gonna call you before i go out tonight
..... called... no pickup at 9:30 ish at night left a VM, Hey ##### Its John I said I was gonna call you tonight... talk to you later!"

Thursday
me: you will not believe what happeened to me last night!!
her: what?!
me: i'm driving now, you have 5 mins?
her: no i'm at the airport sorry
me: no worries, cant call now anyways, talk to you later!
her:

please note all of these texts were sent with the wait at least as long if not twice as long as she took to respond timelines. holy fuck that took a long time to type up!! please give me any and all advice to get this girl back on the radar for me! dont be gentle i can handle the truth so lay it on me, is she just being nice? I await your responses. Good luck all!!]]>
I only opened 3 sets tonight, two were solid 15+ minute sets but I have stopped number closing all together. I am having a problem with my goals I think. I decided on the drive home to retype all the hand written notes and lecture material from my bootcamp to try to reframe and recapture some of that indestructibility i felt during and after my bootcamp and also to start giving day game a shot. Any words of advice for solid day game, I'm a fan of chapters/starbucks and market mall?...It worked during the bootcamp and I think it might be a better way for me to make solid lasting connections. I am also in need of some guidance on how long to stay in set... if interest starts to wane too much I feel like I should try for a quick number close or just eject. Also tonight at the club I realized that I am limited pretty massively by the fact that I dont really go dance at all and this seems to be a hotspot for some of the best women in the club. I just dont feel like I can build as good of rapport by grinding some randoms as for 5 minutes, I think looking at this now that its worth trying and getting blown out of some dancing sets. Any advice on dance game or how to isolate off the dance floor since I have this notion that I need to have fun conversations with women to build attraction?

I also still have this issue of almost subconsicously screening women based on "would I want to date this women longer term" So if a girl smokes or isnt doing anything meaningful with her life I kind of subconsciously dismiss her as a candidate, if that makes any sense. This is a big part of the reason I only number closed one set in the past 3 nights. I am feeling pretty deflated and almost borderline depressed ruminating about my last 3 outings. I decided that I am gonna go out again Friday for sure and then I might try day game sat/sun at the mall. Since I have this pesky cold from clubbin too hard hahah! Any one interested in joining fri/sat/sin for some good times?? PM Me I promise I'm more posotive in person, this is just some cathartic venting, and trying to get over my sticking points. Considering I was Captain Chode for the first 24 years of my life this is still massive progress. I go out solo without any hesitation which is an empowering feeling and number closed around 30 women over the past few weeks.

I am also getting a small case of oneitis, or in my case twoitis. Basically there were two girls I met which had wicked positive energy and exceeded my standards in the looks department. The problem is these numbers are getting staler by the day. One is for sure a lost cause (maybe try again in 6 mos. haha) but the other I have been texting on and off but it is now almost 2 weeks old. Cam had advised me that 9 days is the threshold for a bricked number. This girl responds to all my texts (she added me on her blackberry messanger without me requesting it and she pretty much never responds without smiley emoticons or LOL's) I'm through guessing wether all that shit is IOI's though cause frankly some chicks over use the fuck out of those things.

I want to post the interaction from start to finish to try to get some really solid advice on ways to rekindle this since I thought it was gonna be a money number when I got it. So here we go:

I saw this girl call her HBVolleyball as I was walking by the d-floor at the roadhouse on feb 13 ( i checked my phone, dont think I'm that obsessed that would be creepy haha she looked fairly stoic so I smiled and said " you look so sad tonight, did someone steal your puppy today?!" she laughed and was like "awww nooooo I wish I had a puppy!" Her friend smiled at me when she saw me talking to her and I said "do you mind if I borrow your friend for a minute?" she gave me permission and actually seemed kind of impressed that I asked. I took HBvolley's hand and led her over to the tables by the bar. I pulled out her chair for her and sat her down. I grabbed a chair for myslef and I sat down but it was too loud to talk from opposite sides of the table ( was kind of like a mini afc dinner date setup haha). I stacked a couple fashion and travel related opens she mentioned that she didt really travel but wanted to really badly etc blah blah we talked about all sorts of crap for probs about 15 mins including where she was from and her passions and sports she played etc. I made sure to kino her often and at one point her chair got stolen while she was half standing over it so I said "brutal, we'll both stand then" I thought this was a pretty saavy little manouvre haha. I used it as an excuse to go stand right next to her so we didnt have to yell so loud and enabled me to kino more readily as well. I kept open "alpha" body language throughout most of the interaction. She asked questions about what I did with my time school/work type shit and I teased a bit but for the most part I kind of qualified myself in this set. I told her about how I just graduated and started work soon. I stayed posotive in the whole set and number closed at the end making sure to instant text and put my number in her phone. I finished the interaction with a handshake then hug which has become my standard departure move. She seemed to be really receptive through the whole interaction, my only concern is that I kind of supplicated by telling her I am a finance grad who starts work at a big oil and gas company soon. In retrospect this may have been a bit "look at me I'm a big deal" kind of approval seeking but frankly I'm fuckin stoked about it and thats the kind of stuff I talk to my real friends about so I just winged it. Jobs are scarce in finance right now so I'm feeling pretty ballin about it.

That night I got a little overzealous and sent her a text after the bar saying "it was nice meeting you farmgirl, talk to you later" (she lived on a farm and I teazed her about this at the club) to which I received dead air........ I though this might have been too chodish again but I read that nick starts texting same night if he really thinks its on. I guess now I know that I'm not Nick hahaaha!

So next day (sunday) I called and got VM and left "Hey farmgirl, its John, the craaaaaaziest thing happened to me last night!!" this was true, some guy ran over top of my car with his shoes and dented it, he paid for it so its all good.... and she never called back...

Fast forward to tuesday I decided to text to hopefully seed a conversation some how... i sent this
"Alright, its over. you blew it. I'm moving out. Wtf do we do about the cats?! Fluffy's mine."

She responds with "LMAO thats fine I suppose, who is this?"

me: " its prince charming, is this the volleyball player or the farm girl?"
her:"lmfao is this cole? this could be a bit of both I guess lol"
her: " or is this "tall hot John" lol?" (thanks to nick for this, hope you dont mind, i actually use tall cute john since i think its more accurate haha)
Me: I think you have a confession to make...
Her:lol i think all i have to confess is that i'm conpletely confused
me: my numbers in your phone, your a terrible liar, what sort of trouble are you causing tonight?
her: yeah but you never even put in in? lol having dinner with my grandma, you?
me: you need to get a new blackberry, damn flip phones. I'm going out with some friends!
her: haha I know!! Nice where at?
me:why? so you can stalk me?! some friends are in town from other schools and I dont start work for weeks so we're gonna live it up! dinner with granny, thats cute.
her: haha no just making convo, that will be sweet though!!
me: program my number in your phone goof, we'll talk later!

I dont think i need to outline the logic behind each text but it was a combination of all being truthful, trying to subtly dhv and build commonality. any comments are welcomed.

Oh fuck now I realize my mistake, I didnt contact her for a week cause i went out so much that week that I was too busy to even think about her.


So i tried to call that week later to which she texts

Monday

hey who is this?
I called again right away which I now realize may have been chodelike...
i txt: its prince charming, i see your not very good at following instructions...
her: lol oh hey John, sorry I got a new phone whats up?( and she send her BB pin for me to add her as a contact)
me: no worries, add me on bbmm i have some funny storues to tell you! you say lol a lot
her: lets hear the stories!!
me:"damnit (her last name)! i didnt want you to know my last name" (cause she now sees it in BB messenger)
"I dont usually give it out to strangers"
her: haha well i knew it wasnt john tall hot
her:well you know mine! and we're not strangers! lol
me do you tell people that that photo is of you? (her profile photo is of some supermodel looking chick)
her: lmao no! and they are all my friends so they know its not me. whats your story?
me: stories get butchered over bbm, whens a good time to call?
her: well im in calc till 730. whats it about?
me:calculus? ugh. you should be doing derivatives right now! msg me when your not busy...
her: sounds good
......
......
.....

TUEsday

her: Hey whats your story??
me: I'll give you a shout, do you have 5 mins?
her: no I'm in class lol ill call you later
..... No phone call

Wednesday

me: what kind of phone did you get?
her:curve
me:boo! bold all the way.
her: haha well its my friends old one so i got it for free
....
me: my puppy needs a bath
me:she smells funny
her:lmfao aww!! what kind?
me: labradoodle, she's tha bomb, I'll send a pic...
-send pic-
her:omg I love labradoodles!!! lol she's so cute!
me: she is the main character in one of my funny stories
her: aww!!
me: I'm in the middle of a workout! I'm gonna call you before i go out tonight
..... called... no pickup at 9:30 ish at night left a VM, Hey ##### Its John I said I was gonna call you tonight... talk to you later!"

Thursday
me: you will not believe what happeened to me last night!!
her: what?!
me: i'm driving now, you have 5 mins?
her: no i'm at the airport sorry
me: no worries, cant call now anyways, talk to you later!
her:

please note all of these texts were sent with the wait at least as long if not twice as long as she took to respond timelines. holy fuck that took a long time to type up!! please give me any and all advice to get this girl back on the radar for me! dont be gentle i can handle the truth so lay it on me, is she just being nice? I await your responses. Good luck all!!]]> http://calgarysocial.net/forum/calgary-pua-thread-Back-Alley-Ladies-Night-Feb-24 Thu, 25 Feb 2010 04:19:45 -0600 http://calgarysocial.net/forum/calgary-pua-thread-Back-Alley-Ladies-Night-Feb-24
Back to the night, I took a bootcamp in early feb and I was feeling a bit overconfident thinking that this might be easy and tonight made it abundantly clear that getting the high value women I am attracted to is going to take a 120 percent effort. 4 problems were revealed tonight.

1. My standards are ridiculously high
2. I am losing my voice from going out so much which is keeping me out of set
3. My energy levels are inconsistent
4. I am still missing oportunities cause of AA and I do to many laps


1.

I want to make this fairly brief so to start with number 1:
My standards are super high! walking around a nightclub sober has made me realize that the women I find physically attractive are the 8's 9's and 10's. I don't want to objectify women but I just want everyone to get a feel for what I mean. I'm talking about the 5 foot 11 towering blondes with perfect bodies and gorgeous faces. This poses an immediate problem. These women get approached all night every night by great looking guys who are well dressed and well built. I don't consider myself to be an unattractive unstylish or out of shape guy but I'm discovering that it takes more than that to get these types of women. Also often these types of women are a little older than myself as well which makes them feel that much more unattainable. My question for the community and instructors especially would be how do I get these high value women attracted?

2. My voice is going and I am pretty rundown from going out to much and I have a wimpy anoying cough. I dont want to turn this into a negative rant but does anyone have any advice on how to preserve your voice at the club while still talking to lots of sets? Or just how to stay healthy going out all the time, I try washing my hands frequently but I am convinced that the club is kind a bad place to go if you want to stay healthy. I have tried to limit myself to opening sets further from the dancefloor to talk quieter but this limits me to those types of women who dont like to be close to the action.

3. In one set in particular I just started to draw complete blanks and became the biggest chode ever. started asking the lamest crap and I was boring myself to death and I just wanted to walk away, i tried to number close and she told me to come get her later, I responded in a dick way like "haha now theres an offer(sarcastically)" and I realize now that my reaction was totally pathetic and uncharacteristic. Other sets I felt good in. I am also realizing that womens responses affect me too much, even when I receive or dont receive texts from women during the day it changes my mood instantly. I'm like "yay she's interested" and then when they are unresponsive I'm all "aww she doesnt like me anymore". any advice on how to remain emotionally detached from the situation. I think this is partially related to my scarcity mentality. I find myself still thinking about a couple girls I met like 20 days ago who had good a good vibe who lost interest after a conversation and some text banter. That is something else I would like answered if possible, what to do with a girl who talked to me on the phone for a while then continued to text me for maybe 2 weeks but never picks up when I call or returns my calls. Am I trying to hard or not enough? I called every few days and texted a bit inbetween. I texted lots of fun flirty texts which she responded well to but then she just went dead... What is the right approach here? Find another better looking cooler girl perhaps?


4. I walk around over and over and I am missing quality oportunites. THe windows are very small especially with the high value women and I am missing chances still. This is more of an epiphany than question, just need to approach immediately!!

Hope this didnt read like to much of a downer just wanted to unload before I went to bed. Its just that I only have 2 girls of the 20+ that I am really interested in. I might post about the one for advice later but its bedtime for tonight.]]>
Back to the night, I took a bootcamp in early feb and I was feeling a bit overconfident thinking that this might be easy and tonight made it abundantly clear that getting the high value women I am attracted to is going to take a 120 percent effort. 4 problems were revealed tonight.

1. My standards are ridiculously high
2. I am losing my voice from going out so much which is keeping me out of set
3. My energy levels are inconsistent
4. I am still missing oportunities cause of AA and I do to many laps


1.

I want to make this fairly brief so to start with number 1:
My standards are super high! walking around a nightclub sober has made me realize that the women I find physically attractive are the 8's 9's and 10's. I don't want to objectify women but I just want everyone to get a feel for what I mean. I'm talking about the 5 foot 11 towering blondes with perfect bodies and gorgeous faces. This poses an immediate problem. These women get approached all night every night by great looking guys who are well dressed and well built. I don't consider myself to be an unattractive unstylish or out of shape guy but I'm discovering that it takes more than that to get these types of women. Also often these types of women are a little older than myself as well which makes them feel that much more unattainable. My question for the community and instructors especially would be how do I get these high value women attracted?

2. My voice is going and I am pretty rundown from going out to much and I have a wimpy anoying cough. I dont want to turn this into a negative rant but does anyone have any advice on how to preserve your voice at the club while still talking to lots of sets? Or just how to stay healthy going out all the time, I try washing my hands frequently but I am convinced that the club is kind a bad place to go if you want to stay healthy. I have tried to limit myself to opening sets further from the dancefloor to talk quieter but this limits me to those types of women who dont like to be close to the action.

3. In one set in particular I just started to draw complete blanks and became the biggest chode ever. started asking the lamest crap and I was boring myself to death and I just wanted to walk away, i tried to number close and she told me to come get her later, I responded in a dick way like "haha now theres an offer(sarcastically)" and I realize now that my reaction was totally pathetic and uncharacteristic. Other sets I felt good in. I am also realizing that womens responses affect me too much, even when I receive or dont receive texts from women during the day it changes my mood instantly. I'm like "yay she's interested" and then when they are unresponsive I'm all "aww she doesnt like me anymore". any advice on how to remain emotionally detached from the situation. I think this is partially related to my scarcity mentality. I find myself still thinking about a couple girls I met like 20 days ago who had good a good vibe who lost interest after a conversation and some text banter. That is something else I would like answered if possible, what to do with a girl who talked to me on the phone for a while then continued to text me for maybe 2 weeks but never picks up when I call or returns my calls. Am I trying to hard or not enough? I called every few days and texted a bit inbetween. I texted lots of fun flirty texts which she responded well to but then she just went dead... What is the right approach here? Find another better looking cooler girl perhaps?


4. I walk around over and over and I am missing quality oportunites. THe windows are very small especially with the high value women and I am missing chances still. This is more of an epiphany than question, just need to approach immediately!!

Hope this didnt read like to much of a downer just wanted to unload before I went to bed. Its just that I only have 2 girls of the 20+ that I am really interested in. I might post about the one for advice later but its bedtime for tonight.]]> http://calgarysocial.net/forum/calgary-pua-thread-FR-Night-out-failed-almost-all-my-goals-a-lesson-in-flexibility Wed, 24 Feb 2010 05:45:19 -0600 http://calgarysocial.net/forum/calgary-pua-thread-FR-Night-out-failed-almost-all-my-goals-a-lesson-in-flexibility

Before heading out to BOSS, the salsa scene of tuesday, I decided to set myself a list of goals for the night just to keep myself centered. My goals for the night were:

- Dance with every girl possible and make her smile
- Open at least 5 sets
- At least 2 have to be opened with cyclone
- At least 2 number closes
- At least one number close has to be rooted (has to be for the purpose of getting together)

And I failed to fulfill each of those EXCEPT for the last one, but with an added bonus.

I made my way down to BOSS, where I haven't been in 2 months, to have the bouncer tell me "oh yeah, come in, you're a regular". Do they really have so few people there that those that come every 2 months are "regulars"? well whatever.
As I go in the lesson is already in progress, I had half-planned to miss the lesson out b/c the guy always teaches ridiculous moves that aren't easily led on the dancefloor at all. However, being in the lesson time puts me in a bad position. If I take part in it, it's gonna be just annoying, BUT IF I WON'T I'll put the night on a bad start of sitting out. If you sit out at the beginning of the night, you will sit out most of the night.
I ask one of the girls that came in after me to dance, she has to go talk to friends, no big deal, will catch her later.
Go for the washroom and on my way back I see a girl sitting out on the couch while the lesson is still going. I come over to her and ask "so how come you're sitting out in the corner"
Her: "I don't know"
Me: "come on, let's join the class"
Her: "Okay"
Sometimes all you have to do is ask. Don't make up excuses FOR HER, if she has a reason to sit out, she'll tell you. The reason I'm drilling that is because there were like 5-6 guys standing out not taking part in the lesson so it may be natural to assume that she DOES have a reason not to be up with any one of them.
We join the lesson, I don't get any of it b/c it's pretty close to done but we still have fun, the music starts and I ask "You wanna dance for real now?"
Her: "Yeah, sure"
and it turns out she is amazing, and so much fun. She smiles and laughs a lot, and tells me I'm really good. First off, my state goes higher, second, her state goes higher, and third every girl in the room "senses" me dancing with a girl and having a good time. The song ends, and usually I'd look for someone cute to dance with OR sit out, but tonight it's not an option b/c I HAVE TO DANCE WITH EVERY GIRL IN THE ROOM. So I go and invite some lady that is obviously in her 40s, she is resistant at first, but only b/c she can't dance. I shake that away quickly from her and say "come on, it's fun". She agrees and I do my simplest stuff, side to side rocks, a spin here and there, spin myself to make it FEEL like we're doing some awesome move together while it's just me doing all the work. She's having fun and you know what, so am I.
The list goes on and on with many girls I just hop from one to another, but one stands out b/c as were dancing I thought to myself "let's try something here". I had talked to someone local here before and he said one needs to make their intent known when it comes to PU. In other words, you need to make the girl understand you want a romantic outcome out of the interaction. However, I thought a compliment about her being cute, her dancing, or her smile or anything like that may have happened before, so I just told her "I really like your dress" (it was one of those that has layers that lift off when she takes a spin). She replied with a smile and a "thank you" and we kept just having fun. I broke off with her to go dancing with other girls, but little did I know she'll be a more interesting point of focus tonight, let's call her HBBlue b/c her dress was blue.
After some time of dancing with other girls, she's available for a bachata (bachata is just a slower, easier and sensual dance than salsa, very fun). We talk about the different songs and she mentions there is one she likes in particular, I ask her for the name, she doesn't remember but knows it's by Xtreme. Immediately I call out "Te extrano!"
Her: *Excited* "YES!"
Me: "I LOVE that song so much"
Her: "Me too!"
Me: "Okay, here's what we're gonna do, since you're a woman the DJ will love you more so after this you go up and request the song from him"
Her: "Okay! but then you have to find me for it"
CLEAR IOI! NOW IT'S O-N!

Perhaps in retrospect that is when I should have stayed and started building comfort, but I disengaged to dance with more girls I haven't danced with b/c I HAD DO DANCE WITH EVERY GIRL THERE.
While I'm dancing and having fun with all these OTHER girls, many of them I ended up dancing with beside her on the floor, so it was very clearly in sight for her that I'm having fun with other women, powerful envy plot, BUT I had to make sure not to overuse it so it won't seem planned like I'm trying to impress her OR like she is just another notch on my danceshoes
After a certain song I break off with my current partner and notice so did HBBlue, SO I decide to set up an opportunity for her to re-open me to test her level of interest. I stand out, looking at the screen and soon enough she comes over to strike a conversation. Don't remember what it was about but I remembered to pay enough kino, and after a while bounced her with me to get water.
She told me she requested the song already and hasn't heard it since (another IOI), and started also asking rapport seeking questions (yet another IOI), but interesting ones like about traveling and other things. We also talk about the different events around vancouver, UBC and SFU that are salsa related and I get her # "to let her know about SFU stuff that will come up".
We danced together in an area off the floor for the sake of having more room around us (but as I write this it strikes me as a mini-isolation), talked about random things while dancing and then I decide it's time to throw the goals away in light of the new opportunity. I isolate to a couch nearby, we sit pretty close and talk about more serious stuff. She's a psych major (which I guessed with only two attempts after making her guess my major) so we can talk about human nature and stuff. I then steer the conversation towards relationships and just talk to her about how I feel about those, that people should be okay with actively looking for mates, that setting yourself in a cocoon over a hurt relationship is stupid, that someone you go into a relationship and possibly into marriage with needs to be someone you can relate to as a BEST FRIEND as well as a sexual partner. Tell her also a bit about my Human Sex class I took in uni (best class EVER! interesting stuff AND a cool story at any occasion).
At some point she's talking about her being able to support herself through university without loans or parents' help just with her work, so I go into DD roleplay mode:
Me: "Oh, so if were a couple you could support us while I'd be the... house husband"
Her: *laughing* "no no no"
Me: "yeah, that would be cool"
Her: "I don't think I'll be doing that"
Me: "Well then I'm afraid I have to file for a divorce, and I'm keeping all the CDs"
She's laughing and hits me on the leg playfully, now I know I won't need to pull any more routines or material after this. It's a matter of "don't screw it up" from this point on.
We talk a lot and then some Reggaeton music I actually love (I usually hate Reggaeton) comes up so i say "Come on, we have to move around a bit".
Take her not too far from the couches we were sitting on and just dance around a combo of salsa and club dance/grind, it's clear she's good at that point BUT her friends are there. I've danced with her friends so we're on relatively good terms, they don't interfere at all, but then again they are also busy with some guys of their own
The night ends with two bachatas we end up dancing SUPER CLOSE, bodies close AND cheek to cheek to the point where it's actually getting a bit warm for me.

As the songs end I tell her to come over with me to coatcheck before the lineup starts. Reason: I need to isolate her from her friends for a brief time to pull a k-close.
We show up to coatcheck and she makes a comment on how thirsty she is, I have a water bottle I don't plan on finishing so I give it to her to take a sip, she has no issue with sharing bottles, good sign. UNFORTUNATELY her friends line up several people behind us, they aren't interrupting, but they we are within their sight so trying something may backfire on their ride home ("You kissed that guy? WTF? bla bla bla girly stupid bla") and also her ASD can shoot up through the roof. So I say, "come on, let's wait for them outside, it's warm here"
We go out, she puts on her coat and so do I, and I realize I have minutes before her friends catch up. I say, "okay, well this was fun, I have to go now though", place my hand on her midriff and go in. First she tries to just hug, but I can tell she just isn't clear on what is going on, so I pause, look at her, and we kiss. A short peck, to not send her ASD up through the roof with her friends potentially walking out any second.
I let her keep the water bottle b/c she is still thirsty and as a souvenir of me. Her friends come out, "There you are! we're looking for you"
We hangout outside for a few seconds, they work out transportations, I tell them I'm transiting home and we go on our marry ways... in the same direction. HBBlue and I talk some more until we reach an intersection where we need to break off, I turn to go my way but she catches me and says "wait, gimme a hug"
We hug, and I let her go with her friends.

So, to reiterate:

- Dance with every girl possible and make her smile - only danced with 70% of the club or so
- Open at least 5 sets - I don't know if dancing with counts as opening, but sure
- At least 2 have to be opened with cyclone - failed, only one
- At least 2 number closes - failed, only one
- At least one number close has to be rooted (has to be for the purpose of getting together) - done

It is also noteworthy I only got what I got b/c I was committed to my goals, even though I failed them. They kept my from sitting out, only going for hot girls, and helped me being seen as "the fun guy"

Gonna set up a day2 with HBBlue BUT I need to be careful b/c she works like 6 days a week and once the FIRST "no, I can't" pops up, the second, third and n-th ones are much easier to dish out.

Any feedback or comments are encouraged.]]>

Before heading out to BOSS, the salsa scene of tuesday, I decided to set myself a list of goals for the night just to keep myself centered. My goals for the night were:

- Dance with every girl possible and make her smile
- Open at least 5 sets
- At least 2 have to be opened with cyclone
- At least 2 number closes
- At least one number close has to be rooted (has to be for the purpose of getting together)

And I failed to fulfill each of those EXCEPT for the last one, but with an added bonus.

I made my way down to BOSS, where I haven't been in 2 months, to have the bouncer tell me "oh yeah, come in, you're a regular". Do they really have so few people there that those that come every 2 months are "regulars"? well whatever.
As I go in the lesson is already in progress, I had half-planned to miss the lesson out b/c the guy always teaches ridiculous moves that aren't easily led on the dancefloor at all. However, being in the lesson time puts me in a bad position. If I take part in it, it's gonna be just annoying, BUT IF I WON'T I'll put the night on a bad start of sitting out. If you sit out at the beginning of the night, you will sit out most of the night.
I ask one of the girls that came in after me to dance, she has to go talk to friends, no big deal, will catch her later.
Go for the washroom and on my way back I see a girl sitting out on the couch while the lesson is still going. I come over to her and ask "so how come you're sitting out in the corner"
Her: "I don't know"
Me: "come on, let's join the class"
Her: "Okay"
Sometimes all you have to do is ask. Don't make up excuses FOR HER, if she has a reason to sit out, she'll tell you. The reason I'm drilling that is because there were like 5-6 guys standing out not taking part in the lesson so it may be natural to assume that she DOES have a reason not to be up with any one of them.
We join the lesson, I don't get any of it b/c it's pretty close to done but we still have fun, the music starts and I ask "You wanna dance for real now?"
Her: "Yeah, sure"
and it turns out she is amazing, and so much fun. She smiles and laughs a lot, and tells me I'm really good. First off, my state goes higher, second, her state goes higher, and third every girl in the room "senses" me dancing with a girl and having a good time. The song ends, and usually I'd look for someone cute to dance with OR sit out, but tonight it's not an option b/c I HAVE TO DANCE WITH EVERY GIRL IN THE ROOM. So I go and invite some lady that is obviously in her 40s, she is resistant at first, but only b/c she can't dance. I shake that away quickly from her and say "come on, it's fun". She agrees and I do my simplest stuff, side to side rocks, a spin here and there, spin myself to make it FEEL like we're doing some awesome move together while it's just me doing all the work. She's having fun and you know what, so am I.
The list goes on and on with many girls I just hop from one to another, but one stands out b/c as were dancing I thought to myself "let's try something here". I had talked to someone local here before and he said one needs to make their intent known when it comes to PU. In other words, you need to make the girl understand you want a romantic outcome out of the interaction. However, I thought a compliment about her being cute, her dancing, or her smile or anything like that may have happened before, so I just told her "I really like your dress" (it was one of those that has layers that lift off when she takes a spin). She replied with a smile and a "thank you" and we kept just having fun. I broke off with her to go dancing with other girls, but little did I know she'll be a more interesting point of focus tonight, let's call her HBBlue b/c her dress was blue.
After some time of dancing with other girls, she's available for a bachata (bachata is just a slower, easier and sensual dance than salsa, very fun). We talk about the different songs and she mentions there is one she likes in particular, I ask her for the name, she doesn't remember but knows it's by Xtreme. Immediately I call out "Te extrano!"
Her: *Excited* "YES!"
Me: "I LOVE that song so much"
Her: "Me too!"
Me: "Okay, here's what we're gonna do, since you're a woman the DJ will love you more so after this you go up and request the song from him"
Her: "Okay! but then you have to find me for it"
CLEAR IOI! NOW IT'S O-N!

Perhaps in retrospect that is when I should have stayed and started building comfort, but I disengaged to dance with more girls I haven't danced with b/c I HAD DO DANCE WITH EVERY GIRL THERE.
While I'm dancing and having fun with all these OTHER girls, many of them I ended up dancing with beside her on the floor, so it was very clearly in sight for her that I'm having fun with other women, powerful envy plot, BUT I had to make sure not to overuse it so it won't seem planned like I'm trying to impress her OR like she is just another notch on my danceshoes
After a certain song I break off with my current partner and notice so did HBBlue, SO I decide to set up an opportunity for her to re-open me to test her level of interest. I stand out, looking at the screen and soon enough she comes over to strike a conversation. Don't remember what it was about but I remembered to pay enough kino, and after a while bounced her with me to get water.
She told me she requested the song already and hasn't heard it since (another IOI), and started also asking rapport seeking questions (yet another IOI), but interesting ones like about traveling and other things. We also talk about the different events around vancouver, UBC and SFU that are salsa related and I get her # "to let her know about SFU stuff that will come up".
We danced together in an area off the floor for the sake of having more room around us (but as I write this it strikes me as a mini-isolation), talked about random things while dancing and then I decide it's time to throw the goals away in light of the new opportunity. I isolate to a couch nearby, we sit pretty close and talk about more serious stuff. She's a psych major (which I guessed with only two attempts after making her guess my major) so we can talk about human nature and stuff. I then steer the conversation towards relationships and just talk to her about how I feel about those, that people should be okay with actively looking for mates, that setting yourself in a cocoon over a hurt relationship is stupid, that someone you go into a relationship and possibly into marriage with needs to be someone you can relate to as a BEST FRIEND as well as a sexual partner. Tell her also a bit about my Human Sex class I took in uni (best class EVER! interesting stuff AND a cool story at any occasion).
At some point she's talking about her being able to support herself through university without loans or parents' help just with her work, so I go into DD roleplay mode:
Me: "Oh, so if were a couple you could support us while I'd be the... house husband"
Her: *laughing* "no no no"
Me: "yeah, that would be cool"
Her: "I don't think I'll be doing that"
Me: "Well then I'm afraid I have to file for a divorce, and I'm keeping all the CDs"
She's laughing and hits me on the leg playfully, now I know I won't need to pull any more routines or material after this. It's a matter of "don't screw it up" from this point on.
We talk a lot and then some Reggaeton music I actually love (I usually hate Reggaeton) comes up so i say "Come on, we have to move around a bit".
Take her not too far from the couches we were sitting on and just dance around a combo of salsa and club dance/grind, it's clear she's good at that point BUT her friends are there. I've danced with her friends so we're on relatively good terms, they don't interfere at all, but then again they are also busy with some guys of their own
The night ends with two bachatas we end up dancing SUPER CLOSE, bodies close AND cheek to cheek to the point where it's actually getting a bit warm for me.

As the songs end I tell her to come over with me to coatcheck before the lineup starts. Reason: I need to isolate her from her friends for a brief time to pull a k-close.
We show up to coatcheck and she makes a comment on how thirsty she is, I have a water bottle I don't plan on finishing so I give it to her to take a sip, she has no issue with sharing bottles, good sign. UNFORTUNATELY her friends line up several people behind us, they aren't interrupting, but they we are within their sight so trying something may backfire on their ride home ("You kissed that guy? WTF? bla bla bla girly stupid bla") and also her ASD can shoot up through the roof. So I say, "come on, let's wait for them outside, it's warm here"
We go out, she puts on her coat and so do I, and I realize I have minutes before her friends catch up. I say, "okay, well this was fun, I have to go now though", place my hand on her midriff and go in. First she tries to just hug, but I can tell she just isn't clear on what is going on, so I pause, look at her, and we kiss. A short peck, to not send her ASD up through the roof with her friends potentially walking out any second.
I let her keep the water bottle b/c she is still thirsty and as a souvenir of me. Her friends come out, "There you are! we're looking for you"
We hangout outside for a few seconds, they work out transportations, I tell them I'm transiting home and we go on our marry ways... in the same direction. HBBlue and I talk some more until we reach an intersection where we need to break off, I turn to go my way but she catches me and says "wait, gimme a hug"
We hug, and I let her go with her friends.

So, to reiterate:

- Dance with every girl possible and make her smile - only danced with 70% of the club or so
- Open at least 5 sets - I don't know if dancing with counts as opening, but sure
- At least 2 have to be opened with cyclone - failed, only one
- At least 2 number closes - failed, only one
- At least one number close has to be rooted (has to be for the purpose of getting together) - done

It is also noteworthy I only got what I got b/c I was committed to my goals, even though I failed them. They kept my from sitting out, only going for hot girls, and helped me being seen as "the fun guy"

Gonna set up a day2 with HBBlue BUT I need to be careful b/c she works like 6 days a week and once the FIRST "no, I can't" pops up, the second, third and n-th ones are much easier to dish out.

Any feedback or comments are encouraged.]]> http://calgarysocial.net/forum/calgary-pua-thread-Insert-something-provocative-here--472 Sun, 21 Feb 2010 16:10:54 -0600 http://calgarysocial.net/forum/calgary-pua-thread-Insert-something-provocative-here--472 ZSHARE - Field Report
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Okay, another audio field report, this time at the Whiskey Night Club with John, forum name "Chuck Bass". High energy guy from whom I could learn SO much about just making normal conversation.

Basically if anyone could give me tips on how to... like... not suck so much, that would be great.

Yes, I'm feeling rather demoralized right now. It's just that I'd like to feel like I'm progressing somehow, and when I go out I'd like to have the ability to open and carry on a conversation that is fun for both parties and doesn't give everyone cancer.

Any input would be much appreciated!

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Okay, another audio field report, this time at the Whiskey Night Club with John, forum name "Chuck Bass". High energy guy from whom I could learn SO much about just making normal conversation.

Basically if anyone could give me tips on how to... like... not suck so much, that would be great.

Yes, I'm feeling rather demoralized right now. It's just that I'd like to feel like I'm progressing somehow, and when I go out I'd like to have the ability to open and carry on a conversation that is fun for both parties and doesn't give everyone cancer.

Any input would be much appreciated!

|-|ybrid]]> http://calgarysocial.net/forum/calgary-pua-thread-Vynl-Next-week Sat, 20 Feb 2010 20:19:02 -0600 http://calgarysocial.net/forum/calgary-pua-thread-Vynl-Next-week If anyone is planning to hit Vynl I'm in after sunday!
WAy\T]]> If anyone is planning to hit Vynl I'm in after sunday!
WAy\T]]> http://calgarysocial.net/forum/calgary-pua-thread-Anal-Beads--467 Sat, 20 Feb 2010 03:23:31 -0600 http://calgarysocial.net/forum/calgary-pua-thread-Anal-Beads--467

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Now, this is an audio field report for the awesome night of the 19th of February 2010 with Brian the Basketballer ("NBA" on the forums; awesome guy!) to download, and the voice on it is much deeper than it usually is, as the audio recorder crashed and I had to recover the sound file in separate channels, with some side effects...

The reason I'd like feedback on this is because of a conversation I had with someone who has been doing this for a while at the club, and it just screwed up my night. It basically pertains to the fact that I'm not a great conversationalist and therefore all my sets are awkward, and a "cue-card" effect ensues whereby I don't ever know what to say.

"Say whatever is on your mind, don't be fake. All that opinion opener, peacocking, DHV, hooking, etc. is bullshit! Just be yourself. Blah Blah Blah" He tells me. You don't think I would if I could? The worst part of that is, I known he's right, but as a result of years of not socializing I now find myself not being able to think on my feet socially, and therefore am awkward when opening sets, when having a conversation and so on, leaving the group awkward as well, this as a result of using opinion opener questions and other such things as a training wheel (yes that's what it is: a training wheel).

I just need to know how to get past this whereby I can just open a group I want with whatever is in my head and have a blast while the situation unfolds smoothly, without canned lines and so on.

And I also DESPERATELY, DESPERATELY need to know how to stay in a set longer than say... 10 seconds. It just seems that whenever I go into one, it gets awkward and I run of things to say.

So if anyone has any thoughts on this, I would like to hear them.

Thanks in advance,
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ZSHARE - Field Report
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Now, this is an audio field report for the awesome night of the 19th of February 2010 with Brian the Basketballer ("NBA" on the forums; awesome guy!) to download, and the voice on it is much deeper than it usually is, as the audio recorder crashed and I had to recover the sound file in separate channels, with some side effects...

The reason I'd like feedback on this is because of a conversation I had with someone who has been doing this for a while at the club, and it just screwed up my night. It basically pertains to the fact that I'm not a great conversationalist and therefore all my sets are awkward, and a "cue-card" effect ensues whereby I don't ever know what to say.

"Say whatever is on your mind, don't be fake. All that opinion opener, peacocking, DHV, hooking, etc. is bullshit! Just be yourself. Blah Blah Blah" He tells me. You don't think I would if I could? The worst part of that is, I known he's right, but as a result of years of not socializing I now find myself not being able to think on my feet socially, and therefore am awkward when opening sets, when having a conversation and so on, leaving the group awkward as well, this as a result of using opinion opener questions and other such things as a training wheel (yes that's what it is: a training wheel).

I just need to know how to get past this whereby I can just open a group I want with whatever is in my head and have a blast while the situation unfolds smoothly, without canned lines and so on.

And I also DESPERATELY, DESPERATELY need to know how to stay in a set longer than say... 10 seconds. It just seems that whenever I go into one, it gets awkward and I run of things to say.

So if anyone has any thoughts on this, I would like to hear them.

Thanks in advance,
|-|ybrid]]> http://calgarysocial.net/forum/calgary-pua-thread-Friday-Saturday Thu, 18 Feb 2010 15:03:29 -0600 http://calgarysocial.net/forum/calgary-pua-thread-Friday-Saturday -|-|ybrid]]> -|-|ybrid]]> http://calgarysocial.net/forum/calgary-pua-thread-FR-Day2-during-the-olympics Tue, 16 Feb 2010 04:23:27 -0600 http://calgarysocial.net/forum/calgary-pua-thread-FR-Day2-during-the-olympics
This girl is entirely unfamiliar to me, and looking through her photos I have no idea who she is. But she opens me on my wall with "Hey dancer, how's it going?" so it seems we must have met sometime.
I don't know how she has my fb, or my name for that matter, but I just flow with it, talk on chat for a bit and get her number. Send her a txt with my number:
Me: "Hey HBRandom it's WhiteTiger, Here is my number. Have a good night"
She responds:
Her: "You too, dancer "

After sometime we chat on fb again, I tell her about a west coast swing dance I'm going to and tell her I'll txt her later in the day when I'm going. I took longer then expected so I texted her at around 7pm:
Me: "Hey brat
i'm going to the dance shortly
Are you in?"
Her: "Brat? Lol!
the wcs lesson is from 7 to 8 and it'd take me an hour or so to get there... So not today I guess"

In retrospect it's very good she didn't come because
a) I only know 3 west coast swing moves and haven't done those in forever
b) The dance had a total of 10 ppl

Feb 14th comes along and following a newletter I got about vday pickup I pick up my phone and send the following msg to probably 15+ girls:
"Happy Valentine's Day!
- WhiteTiger"

Two things here
1) I send a txt with honest intent of just saying "I thought about you on vday and I think I should still wish you a good day even though we're not a couple"
2) I sign my name at the bottom to avoid some "dead" numbers of replying the mood-killing "who is this?"

And so she replies
Her: "Happy v-day to you too, brat "
I pick up on two things
1) She replied
2) She is flirting back
Now I pull a Nick-inspired sms to season things up a bit:
Me: "I bet my weekend can own your weekend!"
Her: "Haha. What's ur plan for today?"
Me: "Thinking of gathering a few friends for MY new years celebration "
Her: "Last time I checked you didn't seem to be chinese"
Me: "I'm in vancouver
it's infectious
Besides, it's the year of the tiger, i HAVE to make an appearance"
Her: "Haha, alright tiger! Rawr
yeah, i think your plans beat mine "
Me: "What are YOUR plans?"
Her: "Don't know, go for a walk later on perhaps?"
Me: "I'm not going to the celebration until later
You should come up and join for a walk around SFU"
Her: [no response]

Regardless I take myself out to Richmond for the Chinese new years celebration and as I'm on my way there HBRandom sms's me:
Her: "I'm the only white person in an indian cinema"
Me: "How did you end up in an indian cinema?"
Her: "Went to see srk's new movie..."
Me: [no response] I didn't feel like there is anything I can respond there to lift things up, so I should cut it short just to not seem too eager to continue any conversation
But I do pick up on the fact she's sharing an experience with me, that is a clear IOI

Feb 15th comes up and I send my own original msg:
"Happy Half-priced Chocolate day!"
She replies
Her: "Hahaha, good one!"
I decide anymore txting and I'll become an txt buddy so I pick up the phone and call
She picks up, she's at work, I realize the convo would have to be short but I plunge into my story about the experience in Richmond (Okay, I was like the only white person there )
I also decide to throw the rules out the window and invite her to a place on the first call. I say my friends and I are going to a show tonight for free, she should come along, she agrees

I text her later on during the day to come to SFU and we'll take things from there, she calls later to ask if we're taking the train because then she can just park her car at the station and we can meet there, I decide it's cool
We meet up, and just start talking about random stuff right away. I have the feeling I should have started with a hug just to put things on a physical tone, but as a general note I felt the entire interaction didn't have as much kino as it should have.

Regardless, we get on the train and head out, talk about random things and she keeps asking questions about where I'm from and such, where did I do my degree and I take those as clear attempts to build rapport. I do a few games once in a while (Her: "what's your degree?" me: "guess") but mostly I'm just being chill with it and answer with as much as I feel. Still during all this time I have no freakin' clue where I know this girl from, like she does not look familiar one bit, but w/e.
As we reach our destination, there is a lineup around the block to get in and see the show, I'm becoming pessimistic about getting in, but line-up anyway. Some guys start chatting us from behind, I maintain the frame and just stay social but chill.
A guy from the show organizers comes and says basically this part of the line-up probably won't get in b/c of over-capacity
So we break off the lineup
FORTUNATELY, earlier in the interaction I established she likes smoking sheesha (which I don't, but I know a place that serves amazing tea with the sheesha so she can smoke her lungs out while I drink the tea), and I steer us in that direction.
We reach there and the place is full, there is nowhere to sit.
FORTUNATELY ONCE MORE, I know a place within stumbling distance that has good, cheap sushi so I steer us in the direction
Finally we go inside, sit down and we're in a warm, dry, safe environment. We talk and exchange experiences a lot, she tells me about Romania, I tell her about Israel and what my dad told me about Kazakhstan, we share a lot of similar things in our culture. I mess with her head sometimes with puns and arguments and she's laughing all the time while sending daggers through her stares, I'm loving it.
All in all the interaction goes well and aside from the lack of kino, it seems to be working in my favour. I notice consistent eye contact and dilated pupils so I'm guessing I have her attention and interest. I do need to work on kino in day2s

We finish our food and stay there for maybe an hour or so more just talking about stuff, I feel very comfortable with the fact I was leading through most of the interaction, bouncing us through places, always having a plan of what to do and so I just chill back and enjoy the conversation.
We head back and I throw out there that I'm going with ppl for some Salsa tomorrow evening so she should come to, she's in.
As we're about to get on the train I suggest she comes over to my place to watch a movie we were talking about earlier, she says "no, I think I'll head home tonight"
I figure it's okay, she's been cool most of the evening and with the limited kino I've applied I'm not too surprised or shocked at her response. I say she needs to give me a ride home since my last bus will leave by the time we get to the station she left her car in, she complies.

On the way back I tell her a ghost story about the path to SFU, she claims not to believe in ghosts, but when I tell the story she goes "Oh thanks, now I'll be seeing people all the way down, thanks A LOT WhiteTiger" She's laughing, I'm laughing we're having a good time
We also talk about the park near SFU and I mention there is a path that goes from the rez area down there, she says if that path does go to the park she's talking about, she'll be down for a trip, which I again take as an IOI

And at the end of all this, I never asked how we met, so I have no idea how I know her still, but hey, life catches you unprepared sometimes

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated, especially b/c this date didn't go exactly as planned or with as much physical contact as I wanted.]]>
This girl is entirely unfamiliar to me, and looking through her photos I have no idea who she is. But she opens me on my wall with "Hey dancer, how's it going?" so it seems we must have met sometime.
I don't know how she has my fb, or my name for that matter, but I just flow with it, talk on chat for a bit and get her number. Send her a txt with my number:
Me: "Hey HBRandom it's WhiteTiger, Here is my number. Have a good night"
She responds:
Her: "You too, dancer "

After sometime we chat on fb again, I tell her about a west coast swing dance I'm going to and tell her I'll txt her later in the day when I'm going. I took longer then expected so I texted her at around 7pm:
Me: "Hey brat
i'm going to the dance shortly
Are you in?"
Her: "Brat? Lol!
the wcs lesson is from 7 to 8 and it'd take me an hour or so to get there... So not today I guess"

In retrospect it's very good she didn't come because
a) I only know 3 west coast swing moves and haven't done those in forever
b) The dance had a total of 10 ppl

Feb 14th comes along and following a newletter I got about vday pickup I pick up my phone and send the following msg to probably 15+ girls:
"Happy Valentine's Day!
- WhiteTiger"

Two things here
1) I send a txt with honest intent of just saying "I thought about you on vday and I think I should still wish you a good day even though we're not a couple"
2) I sign my name at the bottom to avoid some "dead" numbers of replying the mood-killing "who is this?"

And so she replies
Her: "Happy v-day to you too, brat "
I pick up on two things
1) She replied
2) She is flirting back
Now I pull a Nick-inspired sms to season things up a bit:
Me: "I bet my weekend can own your weekend!"
Her: "Haha. What's ur plan for today?"
Me: "Thinking of gathering a few friends for MY new years celebration "
Her: "Last time I checked you didn't seem to be chinese"
Me: "I'm in vancouver
it's infectious
Besides, it's the year of the tiger, i HAVE to make an appearance"
Her: "Haha, alright tiger! Rawr
yeah, i think your plans beat mine "
Me: "What are YOUR plans?"
Her: "Don't know, go for a walk later on perhaps?"
Me: "I'm not going to the celebration until later
You should come up and join for a walk around SFU"
Her: [no response]

Regardless I take myself out to Richmond for the Chinese new years celebration and as I'm on my way there HBRandom sms's me:
Her: "I'm the only white person in an indian cinema"
Me: "How did you end up in an indian cinema?"
Her: "Went to see srk's new movie..."
Me: [no response] I didn't feel like there is anything I can respond there to lift things up, so I should cut it short just to not seem too eager to continue any conversation
But I do pick up on the fact she's sharing an experience with me, that is a clear IOI

Feb 15th comes up and I send my own original msg:
"Happy Half-priced Chocolate day!"
She replies
Her: "Hahaha, good one!"
I decide anymore txting and I'll become an txt buddy so I pick up the phone and call
She picks up, she's at work, I realize the convo would have to be short but I plunge into my story about the experience in Richmond (Okay, I was like the only white person there )
I also decide to throw the rules out the window and invite her to a place on the first call. I say my friends and I are going to a show tonight for free, she should come along, she agrees

I text her later on during the day to come to SFU and we'll take things from there, she calls later to ask if we're taking the train because then she can just park her car at the station and we can meet there, I decide it's cool
We meet up, and just start talking about random stuff right away. I have the feeling I should have started with a hug just to put things on a physical tone, but as a general note I felt the entire interaction didn't have as much kino as it should have.

Regardless, we get on the train and head out, talk about random things and she keeps asking questions about where I'm from and such, where did I do my degree and I take those as clear attempts to build rapport. I do a few games once in a while (Her: "what's your degree?" me: "guess") but mostly I'm just being chill with it and answer with as much as I feel. Still during all this time I have no freakin' clue where I know this girl from, like she does not look familiar one bit, but w/e.
As we reach our destination, there is a lineup around the block to get in and see the show, I'm becoming pessimistic about getting in, but line-up anyway. Some guys start chatting us from behind, I maintain the frame and just stay social but chill.
A guy from the show organizers comes and says basically this part of the line-up probably won't get in b/c of over-capacity
So we break off the lineup
FORTUNATELY, earlier in the interaction I established she likes smoking sheesha (which I don't, but I know a place that serves amazing tea with the sheesha so she can smoke her lungs out while I drink the tea), and I steer us in that direction.
We reach there and the place is full, there is nowhere to sit.
FORTUNATELY ONCE MORE, I know a place within stumbling distance that has good, cheap sushi so I steer us in the direction
Finally we go inside, sit down and we're in a warm, dry, safe environment. We talk and exchange experiences a lot, she tells me about Romania, I tell her about Israel and what my dad told me about Kazakhstan, we share a lot of similar things in our culture. I mess with her head sometimes with puns and arguments and she's laughing all the time while sending daggers through her stares, I'm loving it.
All in all the interaction goes well and aside from the lack of kino, it seems to be working in my favour. I notice consistent eye contact and dilated pupils so I'm guessing I have her attention and interest. I do need to work on kino in day2s

We finish our food and stay there for maybe an hour or so more just talking about stuff, I feel very comfortable with the fact I was leading through most of the interaction, bouncing us through places, always having a plan of what to do and so I just chill back and enjoy the conversation.
We head back and I throw out there that I'm going with ppl for some Salsa tomorrow evening so she should come to, she's in.
As we're about to get on the train I suggest she comes over to my place to watch a movie we were talking about earlier, she says "no, I think I'll head home tonight"
I figure it's okay, she's been cool most of the evening and with the limited kino I've applied I'm not too surprised or shocked at her response. I say she needs to give me a ride home since my last bus will leave by the time we get to the station she left her car in, she complies.

On the way back I tell her a ghost story about the path to SFU, she claims not to believe in ghosts, but when I tell the story she goes "Oh thanks, now I'll be seeing people all the way down, thanks A LOT WhiteTiger" She's laughing, I'm laughing we're having a good time
We also talk about the park near SFU and I mention there is a path that goes from the rez area down there, she says if that path does go to the park she's talking about, she'll be down for a trip, which I again take as an IOI

And at the end of all this, I never asked how we met, so I have no idea how I know her still, but hey, life catches you unprepared sometimes

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated, especially b/c this date didn't go exactly as planned or with as much physical contact as I wanted.]]> http://calgarysocial.net/forum/calgary-pua-thread-KINGPIN-SOCIAL-Boot-Camp-Review Sun, 14 Feb 2010 18:26:32 -0600 http://calgarysocial.net/forum/calgary-pua-thread-KINGPIN-SOCIAL-Boot-Camp-Review
This is my first post after taking Kevin’s Kingpin Social Boot camp. I am going to make this as short as possible. I have no affiliation with KingPin Social whatsoever and will receive no benefit from this post.

Stop wasting your time downloading torrents of other programs, watching dvd’s, reading forums about other strangers successes and failures and sign up for a Boot camp through KingPin Social ASAP and start going out! I cannot tell you how many countless hours I wasted surfing the net reading other peoples methods and never applying them in set, going to malls and clubs staring at attractive women and being paralyzed with fear. Women are not intimidating and WANT to be approached.

Approach anxiety was a huge roadblock for me and within 60 seconds at the first club with Kevin I felt a newfound confidence and invulnerability. Kevin explains each blown set as getting a brick to build your palace and he has an uncanny ability to observe your sets from afar and provide constructive criticism on your approach. Twice he swooped in and adjusted my posture or distracted an obstacle so I could number close the target. I number closed 14 women and learned tremendously about what I am actually attracted to in women. A pretty face and tight body doesn’t really mean shit if the girl is boring, negative and dispassionate. For me I don’t want one night stands I wanted to have multiple long term relationships with women I am attracted to. I feel that I am well on my way to achieving this thanks to this boot camp. Don’t limit yourself like other men to only being able to date women you work or go to school with, or friends of friends. There are so many beautiful women in this city, you deserve more. Please don’t think that this program will turn you into a rockstar, like everything in your life you will get out what you invest into this.

There is way too much wisdom and insight in this program to even scratch the surface in a small post but all I want to tell all of you is this: If you are really serious about addressing this part of your life and achieving your social goals and taking your lifestyle to the next level then beg borrow or steal $1000 and take one of these programs! You will NOT regret it. Kevin strips away all the unnecessary pieces from other popular programs and teaches you to work smart not hard, giving you what works consistently with no unnecessary filler. In retrospect I would have paid 5 times what Kevin charges to go through this life changing experience. I now have the power to take control of my social life and it is completely up to me how good I become.

Sincerest thanks to Kevin and any other instructors who contributed to the program. Good luck everyone.

-Chuck Bass]]>
This is my first post after taking Kevin’s Kingpin Social Boot camp. I am going to make this as short as possible. I have no affiliation with KingPin Social whatsoever and will receive no benefit from this post.

Stop wasting your time downloading torrents of other programs, watching dvd’s, reading forums about other strangers successes and failures and sign up for a Boot camp through KingPin Social ASAP and start going out! I cannot tell you how many countless hours I wasted surfing the net reading other peoples methods and never applying them in set, going to malls and clubs staring at attractive women and being paralyzed with fear. Women are not intimidating and WANT to be approached.

Approach anxiety was a huge roadblock for me and within 60 seconds at the first club with Kevin I felt a newfound confidence and invulnerability. Kevin explains each blown set as getting a brick to build your palace and he has an uncanny ability to observe your sets from afar and provide constructive criticism on your approach. Twice he swooped in and adjusted my posture or distracted an obstacle so I could number close the target. I number closed 14 women and learned tremendously about what I am actually attracted to in women. A pretty face and tight body doesn’t really mean shit if the girl is boring, negative and dispassionate. For me I don’t want one night stands I wanted to have multiple long term relationships with women I am attracted to. I feel that I am well on my way to achieving this thanks to this boot camp. Don’t limit yourself like other men to only being able to date women you work or go to school with, or friends of friends. There are so many beautiful women in this city, you deserve more. Please don’t think that this program will turn you into a rockstar, like everything in your life you will get out what you invest into this.

There is way too much wisdom and insight in this program to even scratch the surface in a small post but all I want to tell all of you is this: If you are really serious about addressing this part of your life and achieving your social goals and taking your lifestyle to the next level then beg borrow or steal $1000 and take one of these programs! You will NOT regret it. Kevin strips away all the unnecessary pieces from other popular programs and teaches you to work smart not hard, giving you what works consistently with no unnecessary filler. In retrospect I would have paid 5 times what Kevin charges to go through this life changing experience. I now have the power to take control of my social life and it is completely up to me how good I become.

Sincerest thanks to Kevin and any other instructors who contributed to the program. Good luck everyone.

-Chuck Bass]]>