FR: Day2 - why can't I ever land on the normal ones?

[WhiteTiger]

So this is a day2 report about a girl I had met about 3 weeks ago in a ballroom party, let's call her HBChinese.
We had been trying to set something up for some time now but schedules kept conflicting. FINALLY, it worked out and I told her we should go hangout at the local mall, she was ecstatic about the idea since she wanted to go see a movie that was playing in the mall. Problem was, from experience I know unless a movie is freakin' super duper awesome, it's doesn't make for the best date material.
Regardless I figured that might as well flow with it and see how the interaction goes anyways. We met up at the school's bus loop (we both live on university grounds) and take the bus from there to the mall. On the way we talk about random things of comfort, a bit about the movie (2012), and I try and pour in as much kino as I can (only hand, shoulder and arm for now). The conversation has a few pauses once in a while but she usually re-initiates them, which I take to be IOIs.
As we make it to the mall, doesn't take a five minute walk before she starts going and checking out different clothing stores. I take the opportunity to randomly point out skanky and/or hideous clothing telling her that's her style. She laughs almost every time, good stuff.
At some point she says she needs to go into some cosmetics store to look at some stuff. We go in and start looking around, I tease her about some of the different shades she tries on, but I get bored in that store pretty quick. At some point I just lost all interest, went to one of the cosmetics booths they have there with a chair, sat down and waited...and waited...and waited (understand, at some point I was so bored I called home to talk to my folks). I had made some small talk with ppl who walked by, some dudes who were dragged there by gfs/female friends and some girls who work there.
What was funny about all that eventually was the fact that eventually after over 30 mins in that store when she found what she was looking for, her debit card won't work and she didn't have enough cash to buy the thing, I found it hilarious and she was pouting, which made it more hilarious. I pull her in and go "meh, it happens to the best of us "
She mentioned how much she wanted that cosmetics set several times after that, but I always brushed it off with "relax, it's not the end of the world" (was she shit-testing me to see if I'll buy it for her?). She mentioned beforehand some noodle place she wanted to show me so we decided to wander off there. As we make our way there and sit down, I look at the menu...and everything except for some rice dish is Ramen, kinda problematic considering I don't eat pork
I make the note about that and HBChinese is really embarrassed about the whole thing taking me to that kind of place, I just order that rice dish which turned out really good.
The noodle house was just besides the arcade "I never knew was in there", so we got and try some game. Usually I like to run my date on DDR b/c it raises both of our states AND it's funny to congratulate them when they get a higher score than me on a lower difficulty. But this one was wearing heeled boots, so DDR was out of the question... Time Crisis 4 instead (she actually survived longer than me )
As this whole matter ended, she gets a phone from her friend who was apparently supposed to join us for the movie, they checked with the theatre on the phone and the tickets are all sold out (YES! YES! YES! NO MOVIE! NO ENERGY VAMPIRE!).
We make a pit stop at T&T b/c she needs to buy some stuff, after everything is scanned through the till I just grab the bags of groceries and onward to the train we march to get back home. My original idea is to take the bus again, but HBChinese suggests the train would be faster now. However as we get the platform we find out the train line we need doesn't run so back to the bus we go. I'm laughing, she's yelling "shut up!" with a smile.
We end up taking the bus home, cuddling for a bit and just talking about different things again like morals, society frames. At some point I direct the convo towards the Human Sexuality course I'm auditing and talk about how in the last lecture we talked about religion and sex and how for some reason religion leadership has demonized passion in sex even though the religious texts support passion and pleasure in sex within the frame of marriage.
At this point I go for a k-close at some point but she turns away to her cheek, sucks
I help her with the groceries to her place and we come in. She has a housemate for her place, but it seems she isn't home yet. Her apartment is slightly messy but I don't mind. She seems to mind very much though since when I asked to use the washroom she insisted on cleaning it a bit before I go in... what am I gonna do? move in there? it's an in and out operation... girls sometimes, ay yay yay.
I suggest that in the spirit of the movie we were GOING TO watch, if she has anything worth watching, and she points out "The Mummy" that she has but still hasn't watched . Ideally I'd like to have her come watch a movie in MY PLACE, but the fact our apartments are on different sides of the campus, it's about a 20 mins walk, it's raining outside, and she was walking in heels for the past 5+ hours I figured it was a bad idea to push for this pull, so we stayed and watched the movie at her place.
She was okay with me kissing her neck, but she wouldn't go for a kclose. We watched the movie in the living room, on two chairs in front of the comp, they don't even have a couch. At some point she made the comment that she wished there were a couch there, I suggested we move the movie night to her room since she does have a laptop and all, but she said it was waaaaay too messy. This seemed like not enough comfort combined with sincere concern (considering the whole washroom incident). We stayed there cuddled at her living room, when the movie ended we watched some random youtube stuff, like music videos. Shared our taste in music. She showed me some songs in Chinese I actually really liked regardless of the fact I know not a speck of Chinese. And I showed her some music like "Rivers flow in you" (if you're a piano fan this is a MUST watch). At some point I put on Graduation - by Vitamin C and suggest to her we dance, I sincerely enjoyed that experience. Through some talk she starts giving excuses like we don't know each other enough, I don't know anything about her, bla bla bla (sounds like not enough comfort for sure). My reply to not knowing her well enough was "No, but I think I'd like to"
After that we looked at some more youtube vids and she was sitting on my lap already...still no kclose
She says at some point "I've got a feeling you're gonna ring tomorrow (as in today, Sunday)"
Me:"Is that so?"
Her: "Yeah, I can see the future"
Figured I won't call her today on principle (not that I was actually planning to, but now furthermore!)
After a while she says it's her bedtime or something like that and says "I wanna go to my bed and sleep"
I reply with, "I wanna go to your bed too "
She smiles and tells me to shut up all while still holding tight to me
We figure we should break off, and on my way I go, point to my cheek and go "kiss goodbye"...THAT AT LEAST she complies with fairly easily. A few more tight hugs and we part our ways.
On the way back to my place I almost get attacked by raccoons, no big deal.

Any advice/feedback/questions?

[oxymoron]

Well done man, sounds like a success overall.
One thing I did notice is that it seems as though she led the majority of the interaction.
A rule I had always tried to adopt is that. Whatever she suggests to do for a day 2 the answer is no.
Perhaps for the day 3 make her jump through all of your hoops and do your things.

When your sitting on the couch with her, try looking deeply into her eyes and saying in a serious / seductive tone. "theres something I've been wanting to do since we met". Then drill her in the head with a pillow lol.
Hopefully this will lead to some playful wrestling which should help make her comfortable with touching you, you may even be able to kiss close during the wrestling.
Then when her buying temp has been increased try the question game to push into seduction territory.

Good on you for surviving her shit test and not buying shit for her.
Can't wait for the update
Good luck bud

[Bjorn]

I agree with oxymoron. When I was reading, I thought about the leading too. Try freeze offs. If she says something, than no, she insist turn your back to her. Pillow fight is also excellent advice. I did not try it though, but sounds good. Here you have to be careful not to hit her to hard and also not to go too much into it. Do not hit her too long or something, it must be very measured, but at the same time playful and spontaneous. Overall it is really good, and the chic is pretty nice. If you will get 1 more day you will have your kiss close. With chinese chics I usually go as aggressive as possible. They respect power. Practice freeze outs. For example if you close kiss next time at her apt. Move on, warm her up at maximum, take cloths off till the point she will say no. Than put on movie and suggest to watch. First time I did it, it was amazing, so try it

[oilbaron4]

I find 60% of asian chicks to be so frigid its ridiculous. You get huge IOI's and know they want you but once you finally get em to kiss you they are terrible kissers and have very little sensuality to their being too. Getting them drunk definetly helps and thats easy because usually 2 shot's do it.

[oxymoron]

I've never had an asian chick so I can't relate to their demeanor.
One day though I plan on throwing one into the lineup.
Any updates on this bud? I'm dying to hear how it's going

[V3nu]

(11-20-2009 11:36 AM)oilbaron4 Wrote:  I find 60% of asian chicks to be so frigid its ridiculous. You get huge IOI's and know they want you but once you finally get em to kiss you they are terrible kissers and have very little sensuality to their being too. Getting them drunk definetly helps and thats easy because usually 2 shot's do it.

Watch out you don't wanna get her too drunk, we all know what happens to asian gene + alcohol , but yah I agree if they are tipsy they are much easier to game. Definitely I don't like gaming Asian girls for some of the reasons listed in the thread but man if she look like Tila Tequila then it's a yes for sure haha and in that case she is a twinky anyways! so it's all good

[Bjorn]

just go for it man, I do not like drunk women, and chinese chicks sometimes puke from very little dose. So it is either way. I think it is easy enough to get her to bed without alcohol, just do the did, than even if you get 60% of horrible kissers not a big deal. For you the most important thing now is to score.

[WhiteTiger]

I have to say people, I did not expect this much interest in this particular FR, but thanks for the support. If you really really want a short update here it is:

I posted the following on Tues Nov 17th

(11-18-2009 01:29 AM)WhiteTiger Wrote:  Tues Nov 17th Update:

Called the girl today, she didn't pick up
She called back, I missed her call
Called her again, she picked up, I seem to have woken her up
Invited her to my place to watch The Count of Monte Cristo, she refused. I said we should get together during the weekend, she says she can't b/c she has some exam on monday.

Sounds indeed like she is slipping away, if not far gone already, out of my reach. Looks like a bit more domination during the date wouldn't have hurt

Time to dust off, and go for a few new targets...

Today I just sent off a short sms saying "Good luck in the exam nerd "
She replied within 2 minutes saying "Thanks geek"

I'll probably call her sometime later this week to try and set up plans. Thanks for the support everyone.

Also, regarding alcohol, I'm not a fan of incorporating it in my game, either by consuming it myself or by getting the target to consume any. If the girl wants to get drunk, no problem, but I won't try and GET HER DRUNK.